1 00:00:07,490 --> 00:00:03,830 recently there was a sighting 2 00:00:10,129 --> 00:00:07,500 in the high desert of Southern Nevada 3 00:00:11,450 --> 00:00:10,139 residents of Las Vegas 4 00:00:14,030 --> 00:00:11,460 noticed 5 00:00:17,870 --> 00:00:14,040 something that appeared 6 00:00:21,590 --> 00:00:17,880 out of nowhere and disappeared just as 7 00:00:23,990 --> 00:00:21,600 easily as it manifested 8 00:00:26,509 --> 00:00:24,000 it's rare to be able to get the 9 00:00:28,849 --> 00:00:26,519 opportunity to talk to the person who 10 00:00:31,189 --> 00:00:28,859 filmed in my opinion the best video of 11 00:00:36,110 --> 00:00:31,199 the footage 12 00:00:43,670 --> 00:00:36,120 I also run a Las Vegas UFO Hunters 13 00:00:49,670 --> 00:00:47,150 I had a gentleman post 14 00:00:52,430 --> 00:00:49,680 some great footage as he walked to the 15 00:00:54,049 --> 00:00:52,440 store of this craft 16 00:00:55,729 --> 00:00:54,059 I didn't think you could get any better 17 00:00:57,889 --> 00:00:55,739 footage than that 18 00:01:01,189 --> 00:00:57,899 but then 19 00:01:05,450 --> 00:01:01,199 through coincidence and synchronicity I 20 00:01:08,149 --> 00:01:05,460 was contacted by the same people who 21 00:01:11,510 --> 00:01:08,159 had their footage 22 00:01:13,609 --> 00:01:11,520 posted on the coast to coast website 23 00:01:17,649 --> 00:01:13,619 it is in my opinion the best footage 24 00:01:21,170 --> 00:01:17,659 they seem to live in a spot that is 25 00:01:22,070 --> 00:01:21,180 very apt to be able to capture these 26 00:01:25,130 --> 00:01:22,080 things 27 00:01:29,030 --> 00:01:25,140 it is along a Mountainside and actually 28 00:01:32,450 --> 00:01:29,040 believe it or not very close to my digs 29 00:01:33,950 --> 00:01:32,460 in Las Vegas where I stay when I'm in 30 00:01:35,690 --> 00:01:33,960 southern Nevada 31 00:01:37,069 --> 00:01:35,700 and 32 00:01:39,170 --> 00:01:37,079 um yeah we're just around the mountain 33 00:01:41,810 --> 00:01:39,180 from one another 34 00:01:44,630 --> 00:01:41,820 they definitely got the best view of 35 00:01:50,270 --> 00:01:44,640 anybody I've seen I can't wait to 36 00:01:55,550 --> 00:01:50,280 discuss this with uh Scott he is a great 37 00:01:59,030 --> 00:01:55,560 guy Las Vegas local and I am going to 38 00:02:01,789 --> 00:01:59,040 see what exactly we were dealing with 39 00:02:05,450 --> 00:02:01,799 here some claim oh maybe it's something 40 00:02:07,609 --> 00:02:05,460 from Area 51 I've had sources come 41 00:02:10,309 --> 00:02:07,619 forward and tell me that 42 00:02:12,949 --> 00:02:10,319 people in positions 43 00:02:15,229 --> 00:02:12,959 higher up believe that it was some 44 00:02:18,710 --> 00:02:15,239 exotic propulsion 45 00:02:20,449 --> 00:02:18,720 tests coming out of Creech 46 00:02:24,589 --> 00:02:20,459 Air Force Base 47 00:02:27,050 --> 00:02:24,599 however it's difficult to tell and when 48 00:02:30,770 --> 00:02:27,060 it comes to the most secret domestic 49 00:02:34,550 --> 00:02:30,780 military facilities in our country I'm 50 00:02:36,949 --> 00:02:34,560 not about to start picking that apart so 51 00:02:39,050 --> 00:02:36,959 in my opinion it looked like it was just 52 00:02:41,030 --> 00:02:39,060 over Las Vegas and in the opinion of 53 00:02:41,869 --> 00:02:41,040 many other residents it appeared the 54 00:02:44,869 --> 00:02:41,879 same 55 00:02:48,949 --> 00:02:44,879 I'm sticking with that and I'm going to 56 00:02:52,729 --> 00:02:48,959 be joined by a fellow podcast host Jeff 57 00:02:55,970 --> 00:02:52,739 rennell you may know him from etalk TV 58 00:02:58,030 --> 00:02:55,980 he has a great great podcast where he 59 00:03:00,470 --> 00:02:58,040 covers a variety of different subjects 60 00:03:03,170 --> 00:03:00,480 very knowledgeable researcher and 61 00:03:05,650 --> 00:03:03,180 investigator he also grew up in Las 62 00:03:09,050 --> 00:03:05,660 Vegas although he calls Utah home now 63 00:03:10,490 --> 00:03:09,060 and he is going to help me delve into 64 00:03:13,430 --> 00:03:10,500 this 65 00:03:16,250 --> 00:03:13,440 Jeff is also part of the research team 66 00:03:18,830 --> 00:03:16,260 that goes up to space Wolf research and 67 00:03:21,470 --> 00:03:18,840 often investigates High strangeness and 68 00:03:23,990 --> 00:03:21,480 anomalies as they pop up so 69 00:03:26,390 --> 00:03:24,000 I just figured two heads are better than 70 00:03:28,729 --> 00:03:26,400 one when it comes to such a unique 71 00:03:30,470 --> 00:03:28,739 opportunity to talk to somebody so close 72 00:03:34,009 --> 00:03:30,480 to the point 73 00:03:37,490 --> 00:03:34,019 when they filmed this anomaly and it's 74 00:03:42,229 --> 00:03:37,500 an anomaly that in my opinion Rivals the 75 00:03:45,250 --> 00:03:42,239 Phoenix Lights it's amazing footage and 76 00:03:47,990 --> 00:03:45,260 it's recent I mean this just happens so 77 00:03:51,350 --> 00:03:48,000 buckle up for a bumpy ride into the 78 00:03:54,009 --> 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where top level Technologies are tested 124 00:06:43,070 --> 00:06:40,259 and strategic 125 00:06:44,809 --> 00:06:43,080 missions and services 126 00:06:47,990 --> 00:06:44,819 are rumored 127 00:06:50,870 --> 00:06:48,000 to be taking place 128 00:06:52,430 --> 00:06:50,880 it is known by many names 129 00:06:54,170 --> 00:06:52,440 Groom Lake 130 00:06:57,350 --> 00:06:54,180 S4 131 00:07:01,730 --> 00:06:57,360 but let's get to the goods most people 132 00:07:07,990 --> 00:07:03,710 those who have spoken of it include 133 00:07:12,110 --> 00:07:08,000 diplomats spies Statesmen politicians 134 00:07:13,670 --> 00:07:12,120 and even your random scientist who is 135 00:07:16,850 --> 00:07:13,680 believed by few 136 00:07:19,129 --> 00:07:16,860 I'm talking about none other than Bob 137 00:07:25,370 --> 00:07:19,139 Lazar 138 00:07:30,950 --> 00:07:28,070 that was reverse engineered 139 00:07:33,529 --> 00:07:30,960 from extraterrestrial craft 140 00:07:35,210 --> 00:07:33,539 and being tested 141 00:07:37,189 --> 00:07:35,220 evaluated 142 00:07:40,390 --> 00:07:37,199 and worked on 143 00:07:44,990 --> 00:07:40,400 at area 51. 144 00:07:47,990 --> 00:07:45,000 specifically in a location known as S4 145 00:07:51,409 --> 00:07:48,000 whether that has any validity or not 146 00:07:52,909 --> 00:07:51,419 is not anything I want to get into 147 00:07:56,089 --> 00:07:52,919 however 148 00:07:57,409 --> 00:07:56,099 officially there does seem to be a lot 149 00:08:00,650 --> 00:07:57,419 of advanced 150 00:08:04,909 --> 00:08:00,660 flying aircraft which continues to be 151 00:08:08,029 --> 00:08:04,919 classified being tested at the base 152 00:08:09,770 --> 00:08:08,039 a secret facility in the middle of the 153 00:08:12,170 --> 00:08:09,780 Nevada desert 154 00:08:13,909 --> 00:08:12,180 is it possible that Advanced 155 00:08:17,270 --> 00:08:13,919 Technologies 156 00:08:20,350 --> 00:08:17,280 are being tested and flown directly over 157 00:08:24,350 --> 00:08:20,360 the closest large metropolitan area 158 00:08:25,850 --> 00:08:24,360 nearby none other than Sin City the 159 00:08:29,749 --> 00:08:25,860 Treasure Trove 160 00:08:33,829 --> 00:08:29,759 of gambling casinos shopping nightlife 161 00:08:36,230 --> 00:08:33,839 food and the adult Disneyland everyone 162 00:08:37,730 --> 00:08:36,240 wants to come visit 163 00:08:40,010 --> 00:08:37,740 well 164 00:08:42,050 --> 00:08:40,020 it's an extremely delicate subject to 165 00:08:44,089 --> 00:08:42,060 tackle but that's exactly what we are 166 00:08:46,730 --> 00:08:44,099 going to discuss 167 00:08:47,690 --> 00:08:46,740 Jeff rennell and myself are going to 168 00:08:52,389 --> 00:08:47,700 speak 169 00:08:57,230 --> 00:08:52,399 with Scott who had the good luck 170 00:08:58,810 --> 00:08:57,240 positioning and amazing Viewpoint to not 171 00:09:03,050 --> 00:08:58,820 only get the closest 172 00:09:05,269 --> 00:09:03,060 clearest video footage of the anomaly in 173 00:09:07,610 --> 00:09:05,279 the Skies over Las Vegas 174 00:09:10,250 --> 00:09:07,620 which I believe rivaled the Phoenix 175 00:09:12,769 --> 00:09:10,260 Lights however we're going to get his 176 00:09:16,329 --> 00:09:12,779 opinion on what he thinks it was 177 00:09:19,970 --> 00:09:16,339 how it acted reacted manifested 178 00:09:22,190 --> 00:09:19,980 disappeared and all of the above 179 00:09:25,370 --> 00:09:22,200 I've spoken to a few people who 180 00:09:27,050 --> 00:09:25,380 witnessed it but none got a better view 181 00:09:31,970 --> 00:09:27,060 than Scott 182 00:09:34,910 --> 00:09:31,980 and we of course have the very 183 00:09:37,970 --> 00:09:34,920 talented Jeff rennell 184 00:09:44,210 --> 00:09:37,980 who runs etalk TV 185 00:09:45,970 --> 00:09:44,220 that's e t a l k dot TV he has a great 186 00:09:48,230 --> 00:09:45,980 podcast check it out 187 00:09:50,750 --> 00:09:48,240 and uh 188 00:09:52,790 --> 00:09:50,760 he knows this stuff he was born and 189 00:09:54,650 --> 00:09:52,800 raised in Vegas so I think we're going 190 00:09:58,130 --> 00:09:54,660 to have 191 00:10:02,269 --> 00:09:58,140 good perspectives in the mix to try to 192 00:10:04,970 --> 00:10:02,279 get an honest view of what took place 193 00:10:07,430 --> 00:10:04,980 and do so within close proximity of the 194 00:10:09,949 --> 00:10:07,440 actual event and the video recording of 195 00:10:11,990 --> 00:10:09,959 said craft 196 00:10:13,070 --> 00:10:12,000 can't wait to get into this and talk to 197 00:10:16,009 --> 00:10:13,080 him about it 198 00:10:17,930 --> 00:10:16,019 Scott tappy welcome to the hero 199 00:10:19,370 --> 00:10:17,940 paranormal podcast 200 00:10:21,650 --> 00:10:19,380 thank you 201 00:10:24,050 --> 00:10:21,660 great to have you here and we also have 202 00:10:25,850 --> 00:10:24,060 Jeff rennell here with us 203 00:10:28,250 --> 00:10:25,860 how you doing Jeff 204 00:10:30,290 --> 00:10:28,260 I'm doing wonderful thanks for having me 205 00:10:31,910 --> 00:10:30,300 on tonight oh you're cutting in and out 206 00:10:37,009 --> 00:10:31,920 a little bit but that's okay that's okay 207 00:10:39,970 --> 00:10:37,019 we'll get it figured out so Scott you to 208 00:10:44,509 --> 00:10:39,980 be honest you captured something 209 00:10:48,710 --> 00:10:44,519 recently that was something that I think 210 00:10:50,509 --> 00:10:48,720 got Global attention because 211 00:10:53,750 --> 00:10:50,519 not only 212 00:10:56,210 --> 00:10:53,760 in my opinion does it seem eerily 213 00:10:59,150 --> 00:10:56,220 similar to the Phoenix Lights but it 214 00:11:00,350 --> 00:10:59,160 happened over a very major metropolitan 215 00:11:02,449 --> 00:11:00,360 area 216 00:11:05,090 --> 00:11:02,459 and 217 00:11:08,389 --> 00:11:05,100 I'm I just want to give you a little bit 218 00:11:10,190 --> 00:11:08,399 of time to explain your location where 219 00:11:12,889 --> 00:11:10,200 you gathered the footage 220 00:11:16,610 --> 00:11:12,899 and what took place that evening 221 00:11:18,769 --> 00:11:16,620 sure yeah I can get that for you right 222 00:11:20,090 --> 00:11:18,779 now if you'd like 223 00:11:22,790 --> 00:11:20,100 okay 224 00:11:24,050 --> 00:11:22,800 um yeah for I just want to First give a 225 00:11:27,110 --> 00:11:24,060 little bit of the background information 226 00:11:29,990 --> 00:11:27,120 on where our house is in Las Vegas 227 00:11:31,130 --> 00:11:30,000 um we live in the West Northwest part of 228 00:11:33,590 --> 00:11:31,140 Las Vegas 229 00:11:35,630 --> 00:11:33,600 and our house is essentially as far west 230 00:11:37,370 --> 00:11:35,640 as it can be because there's nothing on 231 00:11:39,949 --> 00:11:37,380 the back side of our house except a 232 00:11:42,050 --> 00:11:39,959 short uneven Patchett desert and then 233 00:11:43,850 --> 00:11:42,060 that little short uneven patch of desert 234 00:11:45,350 --> 00:11:43,860 takes you right to the spring mountains 235 00:11:48,590 --> 00:11:45,360 behind our house 236 00:11:50,690 --> 00:11:48,600 and if anyone is familiar with uh say 237 00:11:53,030 --> 00:11:50,700 Red Rock Canyon National Conservation 238 00:11:55,069 --> 00:11:53,040 Area and where it's located in Las Vegas 239 00:11:56,449 --> 00:11:55,079 the mountains right behind our house are 240 00:11:58,790 --> 00:11:56,459 actually part of the Red Rock National 241 00:12:00,290 --> 00:11:58,800 Conservation Area land but they're just 242 00:12:02,389 --> 00:12:00,300 about two to three miles north of the 243 00:12:05,389 --> 00:12:02,399 main area that people actually go to 244 00:12:08,690 --> 00:12:05,399 when they visit so we actually have a 245 00:12:11,389 --> 00:12:08,700 really nice view of the night sky and 246 00:12:12,829 --> 00:12:11,399 actually the city in front and all that 247 00:12:15,110 --> 00:12:12,839 um since we're at the higher elevation 248 00:12:16,850 --> 00:12:15,120 and with the back of our house being far 249 00:12:19,069 --> 00:12:16,860 enough away from the city and the strip 250 00:12:21,350 --> 00:12:19,079 lights so it actually affords us a 251 00:12:23,150 --> 00:12:21,360 really good view of the night sky or is 252 00:12:25,430 --> 00:12:23,160 pretty much as good as it can be here 253 00:12:27,290 --> 00:12:25,440 over the spring mountains that are to 254 00:12:30,470 --> 00:12:27,300 our West to Southwest to the Northwest 255 00:12:32,110 --> 00:12:30,480 and oftentimes many nights we like to go 256 00:12:35,630 --> 00:12:32,120 out and take advantage of that location 257 00:12:38,150 --> 00:12:35,640 and we watch the night sky quite often 258 00:12:42,290 --> 00:12:38,160 from our back patio 259 00:12:45,470 --> 00:12:42,300 this is awesome you I know the area very 260 00:12:48,110 --> 00:12:45,480 well and uh Jeff and I and other 261 00:12:50,750 --> 00:12:48,120 researchers have spoken about this area 262 00:12:53,150 --> 00:12:50,760 quite a bit uh there was a gentleman 263 00:12:56,889 --> 00:12:53,160 who's also a neighbor of ours and that 264 00:12:59,509 --> 00:12:56,899 by ours I mean uh yourself Scott and my 265 00:13:02,269 --> 00:12:59,519 neighborhood are very close by there's a 266 00:13:04,790 --> 00:13:02,279 gentleman named Steve Barone who has 267 00:13:09,410 --> 00:13:04,800 captured some interesting craft along 268 00:13:12,829 --> 00:13:09,420 the same part of town but nothing quite 269 00:13:16,490 --> 00:13:12,839 as magnificent in my opinion as what you 270 00:13:18,769 --> 00:13:16,500 captured that night so 271 00:13:21,470 --> 00:13:18,779 tell us a little bit about 272 00:13:24,350 --> 00:13:21,480 how it garnered your attention and and 273 00:13:25,790 --> 00:13:24,360 what what made you grab the camera 274 00:13:28,069 --> 00:13:25,800 okay 275 00:13:29,389 --> 00:13:28,079 um well it happened this past Thursday 276 00:13:32,210 --> 00:13:29,399 evening 277 00:13:34,310 --> 00:13:32,220 um April 27th and it was just one of the 278 00:13:35,990 --> 00:13:34,320 nice nights where it was nice out and 279 00:13:37,910 --> 00:13:36,000 well fairly nice it was it was a little 280 00:13:39,590 --> 00:13:37,920 windy which I think you can tell from 281 00:13:41,150 --> 00:13:39,600 the video but it was a nice enough 282 00:13:43,550 --> 00:13:41,160 evening to where we went out and it was 283 00:13:45,410 --> 00:13:43,560 clear clear sky it was a darker sky so 284 00:13:47,509 --> 00:13:45,420 we always like it when the moon's kind 285 00:13:49,670 --> 00:13:47,519 of not as bright as it is sometimes 286 00:13:51,710 --> 00:13:49,680 because it helps kind of take a look at 287 00:13:54,470 --> 00:13:51,720 the night sky so is this past Thursday 288 00:13:57,769 --> 00:13:54,480 evening the 27th of April um my partner 289 00:14:00,470 --> 00:13:57,779 Diane and I were out on our second floor 290 00:14:02,030 --> 00:14:00,480 back patio we also have a patio on the 291 00:14:04,250 --> 00:14:02,040 lower level that we get get a little 292 00:14:06,290 --> 00:14:04,260 further view of things from the upper 293 00:14:08,930 --> 00:14:06,300 patio and we were just doing some of the 294 00:14:12,230 --> 00:14:08,940 sky sky watching like we enjoy doing 295 00:14:13,790 --> 00:14:12,240 and um and yes we do watch for the 296 00:14:15,110 --> 00:14:13,800 occasional night sky things that just 297 00:14:16,970 --> 00:14:15,120 don't make much sense 298 00:14:18,949 --> 00:14:16,980 don't see them that often but we do 299 00:14:22,069 --> 00:14:18,959 every once in a while 300 00:14:24,650 --> 00:14:22,079 um and we do know about the usual things 301 00:14:26,449 --> 00:14:24,660 in the sky you know like what Venus is 302 00:14:28,009 --> 00:14:26,459 and what a lot of other things in the 303 00:14:29,690 --> 00:14:28,019 sky look like such as how the 304 00:14:31,250 --> 00:14:29,700 International Space Station looks when 305 00:14:33,410 --> 00:14:31,260 it's moving through the sky 306 00:14:36,170 --> 00:14:33,420 uh plus I have various nice guy apps 307 00:14:37,610 --> 00:14:36,180 that you know show me the usual stuff 308 00:14:39,530 --> 00:14:37,620 um so we're pretty familiar with what 309 00:14:42,410 --> 00:14:39,540 this guy is supposed to look like 310 00:14:46,370 --> 00:14:42,420 um that said it was a little bit before 311 00:14:50,449 --> 00:14:46,380 9 p.m when Diane actually happened to 312 00:14:53,269 --> 00:14:50,459 notice a horizontal string of orangish 313 00:14:54,829 --> 00:14:53,279 lights that just suddenly appeared to 314 00:14:58,009 --> 00:14:54,839 her view 315 00:15:00,350 --> 00:14:58,019 um interview to the north of our house I 316 00:15:01,850 --> 00:15:00,360 mean looking to the north of our house 317 00:15:04,189 --> 00:15:01,860 um and it was in her line of sight 318 00:15:05,689 --> 00:15:04,199 because her view at the time where she 319 00:15:07,490 --> 00:15:05,699 was sitting was more to the West and 320 00:15:09,710 --> 00:15:07,500 Northwest and I was looking more to the 321 00:15:12,410 --> 00:15:09,720 west and southwest 322 00:15:14,150 --> 00:15:12,420 um well she saw that horizontal string 323 00:15:15,410 --> 00:15:14,160 of oranges lights suddenly appear and 324 00:15:16,670 --> 00:15:15,420 then she immediately got my attention 325 00:15:19,069 --> 00:15:16,680 says hey hey 326 00:15:21,530 --> 00:15:19,079 what what's this 327 00:15:24,590 --> 00:15:21,540 um so that I could see it as well 328 00:15:27,110 --> 00:15:24,600 and then I got up and stood looked 329 00:15:30,290 --> 00:15:27,120 toward the North and then I 330 00:15:32,949 --> 00:15:30,300 also saw this mysterious looking object 331 00:15:36,350 --> 00:15:32,959 um if we hadn't seen anything 332 00:15:37,670 --> 00:15:36,360 uh look like that in any of the other 333 00:15:39,590 --> 00:15:37,680 times we've seen a lot of other things 334 00:15:41,629 --> 00:15:39,600 but this was the kind of the biggest 335 00:15:43,430 --> 00:15:41,639 brightest thing that we we'd ever seen 336 00:15:45,590 --> 00:15:43,440 so far 337 00:15:48,850 --> 00:15:45,600 um and I saw it with my naked eye and it 338 00:15:51,829 --> 00:15:48,860 looked like four oranges colored lights 339 00:15:53,689 --> 00:15:51,839 that were at least for my view aligned 340 00:15:54,769 --> 00:15:53,699 pretty tightly and mostly a horizontal 341 00:15:57,530 --> 00:15:54,779 alignment 342 00:16:00,350 --> 00:15:57,540 and my immediate thought was like wow 343 00:16:02,150 --> 00:16:00,360 that's really really strange and the 344 00:16:05,030 --> 00:16:02,160 reason I thought that was just based 345 00:16:06,470 --> 00:16:05,040 upon how it looked like I described but 346 00:16:09,110 --> 00:16:06,480 also because we had never seen anything 347 00:16:10,370 --> 00:16:09,120 like that when we were Sky watching 348 00:16:13,730 --> 00:16:10,380 um and actually where it was located 349 00:16:15,590 --> 00:16:13,740 just seemed kind of weird to me and I 350 00:16:17,290 --> 00:16:15,600 thought that because I know what it 351 00:16:21,050 --> 00:16:17,300 looks like when I look in that direction 352 00:16:22,670 --> 00:16:21,060 during the day which is a look or view 353 00:16:24,170 --> 00:16:22,680 that's looking pretty much straight 354 00:16:26,030 --> 00:16:24,180 north of our house 355 00:16:26,829 --> 00:16:26,040 maybe give or take a little bit of 356 00:16:29,269 --> 00:16:26,839 degrees 357 00:16:32,449 --> 00:16:29,279 and really the only thing in that view 358 00:16:35,110 --> 00:16:32,459 to the north is desert and that's the 359 00:16:38,629 --> 00:16:35,120 case for a long long way 360 00:16:40,069 --> 00:16:38,639 in fact I mean I'm not at all saying I 361 00:16:42,650 --> 00:16:40,079 think there's any correlation with what 362 00:16:44,930 --> 00:16:42,660 we saw at the area 51 but 363 00:16:46,970 --> 00:16:44,940 um if someone walks 75 miles in that 364 00:16:49,689 --> 00:16:46,980 exact same direction where we saw the 365 00:16:51,829 --> 00:16:49,699 object they'd be in area 51. 366 00:16:54,170 --> 00:16:51,839 but that's just more of an interesting 367 00:16:57,290 --> 00:16:54,180 kind of thing 368 00:16:59,629 --> 00:16:57,300 um with that said we both thought that 369 00:17:02,530 --> 00:16:59,639 what we saw Thursday night was 370 00:17:05,049 --> 00:17:02,540 definitely the closest and brightest uh 371 00:17:08,210 --> 00:17:05,059 mysterious something that we've seen yet 372 00:17:10,429 --> 00:17:08,220 and we just literally stared at it the 373 00:17:16,730 --> 00:17:10,439 entire time it was in view which time 374 00:17:19,250 --> 00:17:16,740 wise I'd say was at most three minutes 375 00:17:21,949 --> 00:17:19,260 um so it was in our view for at most 376 00:17:24,110 --> 00:17:21,959 three minutes uh of course I immediately 377 00:17:27,530 --> 00:17:24,120 got my iPhone out as soon as I saw it 378 00:17:29,690 --> 00:17:27,540 and took a couple photos I actually took 379 00:17:32,810 --> 00:17:29,700 four or five but 380 00:17:35,330 --> 00:17:32,820 three of them or so just were duplicates 381 00:17:37,490 --> 00:17:35,340 or didn't look as good and then I also 382 00:17:38,990 --> 00:17:37,500 took the one minute video 383 00:17:41,450 --> 00:17:39,000 um 384 00:17:43,730 --> 00:17:41,460 one one thing I'll also say about how 385 00:17:46,310 --> 00:17:43,740 the object looked to us as opposed to in 386 00:17:48,230 --> 00:17:46,320 with our own eyes as opposed to how it 387 00:17:49,909 --> 00:17:48,240 would appear say in a photo that wasn't 388 00:17:51,950 --> 00:17:49,919 zoomed in 389 00:17:53,570 --> 00:17:51,960 um because I know for me when I when I 390 00:17:55,130 --> 00:17:53,580 usually just take a regular photo of 391 00:17:57,529 --> 00:17:55,140 something that's way often it's just in 392 00:17:59,750 --> 00:17:57,539 like a mountain or whatever the the 393 00:18:01,909 --> 00:17:59,760 photo or video always seems to make it 394 00:18:03,289 --> 00:18:01,919 look smaller than what you actually took 395 00:18:05,330 --> 00:18:03,299 off with your own eye so it is that they 396 00:18:08,750 --> 00:18:05,340 do Injustice to what you see in real 397 00:18:13,370 --> 00:18:08,760 time so I would say that with our eyes 398 00:18:15,650 --> 00:18:13,380 what we saw was approximately what the 399 00:18:17,690 --> 00:18:15,660 object would look like if it had been 400 00:18:19,370 --> 00:18:17,700 about two times zoomed in in other words 401 00:18:21,230 --> 00:18:19,380 the object was just bigger in our real 402 00:18:23,570 --> 00:18:21,240 view so if somebody's looking at the 403 00:18:25,549 --> 00:18:23,580 photos I mean those are zoomed in but I 404 00:18:27,110 --> 00:18:25,559 guess in the video you can see where I I 405 00:18:29,390 --> 00:18:27,120 kind of zoom in and out just to kind of 406 00:18:32,570 --> 00:18:29,400 get some scale and things like that and 407 00:18:35,270 --> 00:18:32,580 it looks smaller when I have no zoom in 408 00:18:38,810 --> 00:18:35,280 the video but what we saw actually look 409 00:18:40,430 --> 00:18:38,820 bigger you know to our eyes so I just 410 00:18:41,750 --> 00:18:40,440 kind of wanted to point that out you 411 00:18:44,150 --> 00:18:41,760 know somebody's looking at the photos or 412 00:18:45,590 --> 00:18:44,160 videos and just kind of wondering 413 00:18:47,690 --> 00:18:45,600 um so we just continue to watch the 414 00:18:51,529 --> 00:18:47,700 object and just wondering what the heck 415 00:18:53,330 --> 00:18:51,539 it could be and it was just very one of 416 00:18:54,529 --> 00:18:53,340 the you know most interesting things a 417 00:18:56,270 --> 00:18:54,539 lot of interesting things about it but 418 00:18:58,789 --> 00:18:56,280 one of the most interesting things the 419 00:19:01,190 --> 00:18:58,799 entire time we watched it there was 420 00:19:03,710 --> 00:19:01,200 absolutely zero movement of the object 421 00:19:05,210 --> 00:19:03,720 zero movement none you can never moved 422 00:19:07,250 --> 00:19:05,220 it never went up never went down never 423 00:19:09,289 --> 00:19:07,260 went left never went right you know 424 00:19:11,210 --> 00:19:09,299 obviously there was some flickering but 425 00:19:13,310 --> 00:19:11,220 that was kind of thing caused by the the 426 00:19:15,049 --> 00:19:13,320 dust in the air and and this and that of 427 00:19:16,130 --> 00:19:15,059 the lights but the object itself never 428 00:19:19,250 --> 00:19:16,140 moved 429 00:19:22,250 --> 00:19:19,260 um and it also seemed odd to me at least 430 00:19:25,250 --> 00:19:22,260 to me because it it seemed to be so low 431 00:19:26,690 --> 00:19:25,260 in the sky I mean I it probably doesn't 432 00:19:28,610 --> 00:19:26,700 mean anything but it just seemed odd to 433 00:19:30,409 --> 00:19:28,620 me that was so low 434 00:19:32,750 --> 00:19:30,419 um but I also know that you know without 435 00:19:35,270 --> 00:19:32,760 actually knowing how far away it is or 436 00:19:37,730 --> 00:19:35,280 how big it is you really can't tell like 437 00:19:41,690 --> 00:19:37,740 what altitude or how how high it is at 438 00:19:44,390 --> 00:19:41,700 but it just seems low from our view then 439 00:19:47,390 --> 00:19:44,400 at about uh the three minute Mark like I 440 00:19:51,350 --> 00:19:47,400 said at most that the time was uh uh in 441 00:19:53,210 --> 00:19:51,360 our view the the object just suddenly uh 442 00:19:54,830 --> 00:19:53,220 excuse me from the three and a half 443 00:19:57,409 --> 00:19:54,840 three minute mark from the time it 444 00:19:59,150 --> 00:19:57,419 appeared to the time it just disappeared 445 00:20:01,070 --> 00:19:59,160 was about three minutes at that three 446 00:20:02,330 --> 00:20:01,080 minute mark it it literally just 447 00:20:06,049 --> 00:20:02,340 disappeared 448 00:20:08,750 --> 00:20:06,059 interesting and kind of amazing to me 449 00:20:10,090 --> 00:20:08,760 that's one of the things that the only 450 00:20:13,010 --> 00:20:10,100 thing I've been kicking myself about 451 00:20:14,990 --> 00:20:13,020 since that is because I stopped taking 452 00:20:18,289 --> 00:20:15,000 the video about 30 seconds before the 453 00:20:20,810 --> 00:20:18,299 object began to disappear and I was like 454 00:20:23,270 --> 00:20:20,820 oh my God why did I do that 455 00:20:24,830 --> 00:20:23,280 um but I did but I know we know what we 456 00:20:27,289 --> 00:20:24,840 saw and I'm going to try to describe it 457 00:20:29,510 --> 00:20:27,299 for you because it's really interesting 458 00:20:32,029 --> 00:20:29,520 um so as I said the object did begin to 459 00:20:34,789 --> 00:20:32,039 slowly disappear it did just vanish it 460 00:20:36,590 --> 00:20:34,799 didn't it uh go up or down or you know 461 00:20:38,330 --> 00:20:36,600 fly away or anything like that it just 462 00:20:40,070 --> 00:20:38,340 slowly began to disappear but how it 463 00:20:41,930 --> 00:20:40,080 disappeared is really cool to watch 464 00:20:44,029 --> 00:20:41,940 like I said it wasn't sudden or anything 465 00:20:45,409 --> 00:20:44,039 but what happened is we were both 466 00:20:46,850 --> 00:20:45,419 watching it because we both said the 467 00:20:48,710 --> 00:20:46,860 same thing when it happened is wow 468 00:20:52,190 --> 00:20:48,720 that's cool what it's doing is each of 469 00:20:53,990 --> 00:20:52,200 the four uh maybe five depending I can't 470 00:20:55,970 --> 00:20:54,000 tell if there's four or five lights when 471 00:20:58,190 --> 00:20:55,980 I zoom in some if you're not zoomed in 472 00:21:00,110 --> 00:20:58,200 very much it looks like four oranger 473 00:21:04,190 --> 00:21:00,120 slides but there could be a possible 474 00:21:07,490 --> 00:21:04,200 fifth one but each of the four lights 475 00:21:10,370 --> 00:21:07,500 simply faded out and they faded out in 476 00:21:13,070 --> 00:21:10,380 unison like identically at the same time 477 00:21:15,950 --> 00:21:13,080 and that fading out process took about 478 00:21:17,990 --> 00:21:15,960 seven seconds to complete so in other 479 00:21:20,870 --> 00:21:18,000 words from the time it took from the 480 00:21:24,110 --> 00:21:20,880 outer edges of each separate orangish 481 00:21:26,210 --> 00:21:24,120 light to begin disappearing until the 482 00:21:27,770 --> 00:21:26,220 very smallest say inner dot of each 483 00:21:29,690 --> 00:21:27,780 light went away it took about seven 484 00:21:32,830 --> 00:21:29,700 seconds 485 00:21:35,090 --> 00:21:32,840 um so each of the oranges lights 486 00:21:36,950 --> 00:21:35,100 essentially disappeared from the outside 487 00:21:47,930 --> 00:21:36,960 in 488 00:21:50,090 --> 00:21:47,940 that was really cool you know it's just 489 00:21:52,430 --> 00:21:50,100 so amazing to watch and then after the 490 00:21:54,590 --> 00:21:52,440 object faded away we just looked at each 491 00:21:55,610 --> 00:21:54,600 other and said wow that was super cool 492 00:21:57,789 --> 00:21:55,620 to watch 493 00:22:00,830 --> 00:21:57,799 foreign 494 00:22:02,690 --> 00:22:00,840 man and you know I do think it's 495 00:22:04,430 --> 00:22:02,700 interesting your location I'm really 496 00:22:07,250 --> 00:22:04,440 glad that you shared that with the 497 00:22:10,690 --> 00:22:07,260 listeners because there's very little 498 00:22:14,090 --> 00:22:10,700 even I mean it's just High Desert and 499 00:22:17,149 --> 00:22:14,100 it's literally you know in my opinion 500 00:22:19,549 --> 00:22:17,159 the the nation's most secret domestic 501 00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:19,559 military facility of course we have 502 00:22:24,049 --> 00:22:22,320 Nellis here closer to town but the US 503 00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:24,059 government really doesn't like talking 504 00:22:31,669 --> 00:22:27,360 about Area 51 and that I'm aware has 505 00:22:34,149 --> 00:22:31,679 never really fully admitted it exists uh 506 00:22:39,049 --> 00:22:34,159 what do you think Jeff any any 507 00:22:44,570 --> 00:22:42,409 very fascinating and very well uh uh 508 00:22:46,549 --> 00:22:44,580 described as Scott I really appreciate 509 00:22:49,010 --> 00:22:46,559 how you described it 510 00:22:50,990 --> 00:22:49,020 um I'm just wondering myself Scott have 511 00:22:54,529 --> 00:22:51,000 you seen some of the other videos that 512 00:22:57,529 --> 00:22:54,539 have been posted uh online 513 00:22:58,970 --> 00:22:57,539 uh well I I haven't seen any other 514 00:23:01,730 --> 00:22:58,980 videos but 515 00:23:03,950 --> 00:23:01,740 um I haven't looked for them but I saw 516 00:23:05,630 --> 00:23:03,960 some of the you know the photos that the 517 00:23:07,310 --> 00:23:05,640 additional the original the original 518 00:23:08,510 --> 00:23:07,320 photo I'm not sure it was a video or 519 00:23:13,010 --> 00:23:08,520 photo 520 00:23:16,669 --> 00:23:13,020 videos that came out shortly after that 521 00:23:18,350 --> 00:23:16,679 and what if and it to me it was clearly 522 00:23:21,350 --> 00:23:18,360 the same object 523 00:23:23,149 --> 00:23:21,360 um first of all but at least in the ones 524 00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:23,159 I saw I thought there were some that 525 00:23:28,010 --> 00:23:25,200 didn't look like it but the ones I saw 526 00:23:30,350 --> 00:23:28,020 it was clearly the same object but I you 527 00:23:31,250 --> 00:23:30,360 know most of the others that I saw they 528 00:23:33,470 --> 00:23:31,260 were like 529 00:23:36,350 --> 00:23:33,480 kind of like what how I'd say city views 530 00:23:38,450 --> 00:23:36,360 or over the city or whatever so to 531 00:23:40,909 --> 00:23:38,460 contrast that with mine which was not a 532 00:23:42,529 --> 00:23:40,919 City View and another thing that I also 533 00:23:45,409 --> 00:23:42,539 found interesting that many of the I 534 00:23:48,230 --> 00:23:45,419 read a couple comments that many of the 535 00:23:50,690 --> 00:23:48,240 people who took the photos 536 00:23:52,690 --> 00:23:50,700 um said the same thing as as I said it 537 00:23:56,330 --> 00:23:52,700 was there and then it just wasn't there 538 00:23:57,950 --> 00:23:56,340 so I don't know they all had that same 539 00:24:01,250 --> 00:23:57,960 impression but I read that many of them 540 00:24:03,649 --> 00:24:01,260 did so this is what I was asking that is 541 00:24:06,610 --> 00:24:03,659 because yeah they the other videos I saw 542 00:24:10,970 --> 00:24:06,620 actually all the other ones except yours 543 00:24:14,390 --> 00:24:10,980 was basically over the strip and so I 544 00:24:17,390 --> 00:24:14,400 find it very fascinating and also their 545 00:24:20,090 --> 00:24:17,400 dates are two days earlier than what 546 00:24:22,250 --> 00:24:20,100 you're describing as well too 547 00:24:24,350 --> 00:24:22,260 um they say theirs was on the 25th or at 548 00:24:26,390 --> 00:24:24,360 least a couple that I've seen 549 00:24:27,470 --> 00:24:26,400 um which you know maybe they're wrong I 550 00:24:30,110 --> 00:24:27,480 don't know 551 00:24:32,330 --> 00:24:30,120 um but if it's separate days I'm just 552 00:24:35,450 --> 00:24:32,340 wondering if you've seen those videos 553 00:24:38,690 --> 00:24:35,460 and if you do relate that to what you 554 00:24:42,470 --> 00:24:38,700 were seeing yeah I I I don't I the ones 555 00:24:43,909 --> 00:24:42,480 I saw I think were the same day I'm not 556 00:24:46,370 --> 00:24:43,919 exactly positive because I don't think 557 00:24:49,070 --> 00:24:46,380 it was necessarily clearly communicated 558 00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:49,080 in what I saw so I can't really say I 559 00:24:54,610 --> 00:24:50,640 would be interested though that any that 560 00:24:57,350 --> 00:24:54,620 were talk taken on Thursday April 27th 561 00:24:59,210 --> 00:24:57,360 whether it's a photo or video because I 562 00:25:01,730 --> 00:24:59,220 I actually looked at the timestamps of 563 00:25:05,149 --> 00:25:01,740 my photos of videos and and I was 564 00:25:06,890 --> 00:25:05,159 curious like if somehow there'd be a 565 00:25:09,110 --> 00:25:06,900 comparison done at some point of the 566 00:25:11,590 --> 00:25:09,120 time stamps of the other photos and 567 00:25:16,430 --> 00:25:11,600 videos from the different areas like 568 00:25:19,130 --> 00:25:16,440 it might might maybe figure something 569 00:25:21,529 --> 00:25:19,140 out about maybe how it moved or 570 00:25:23,630 --> 00:25:21,539 disappeared or or whatever I I don't 571 00:25:25,850 --> 00:25:23,640 know I'm just curious 572 00:25:27,289 --> 00:25:25,860 um about checking the times of photos 573 00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:27,299 and videos that were taken and kind of 574 00:25:32,210 --> 00:25:29,760 doing a comparison I think you're dead I 575 00:25:35,149 --> 00:25:32,220 think you're dead on Scott I think that 576 00:25:37,909 --> 00:25:35,159 um kind of triangulating how it all 577 00:25:40,010 --> 00:25:37,919 happened and the the time stamps and the 578 00:25:42,529 --> 00:25:40,020 dates the ones that I have come across 579 00:25:44,690 --> 00:25:42,539 and had sent to me one was from 580 00:25:48,649 --> 00:25:44,700 Henderson and the other one was a guy 581 00:25:50,750 --> 00:25:48,659 walking to uh the store and like you 582 00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:50,760 like you guys said these are both city 583 00:25:57,529 --> 00:25:53,520 views and the ambient light kind of 584 00:26:00,110 --> 00:25:57,539 takes away from the actual footage uh 585 00:26:02,750 --> 00:26:00,120 and it in no way compares to yours yours 586 00:26:05,450 --> 00:26:02,760 is so clear that you can actually kind 587 00:26:08,269 --> 00:26:05,460 of see the shape of the lights you can 588 00:26:11,029 --> 00:26:08,279 see you know how low it is which in all 589 00:26:13,789 --> 00:26:11,039 the footage it seems very low but for 590 00:26:16,250 --> 00:26:13,799 something that low you would think that 591 00:26:18,470 --> 00:26:16,260 there would be at least you know some 592 00:26:21,529 --> 00:26:18,480 other telltale signs maybe an outline 593 00:26:24,710 --> 00:26:21,539 anything like that did you have any gut 594 00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:24,720 feeling or reaction when you saw it 595 00:26:30,890 --> 00:26:26,480 uh 596 00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:30,900 gut gut reaction was that there 597 00:26:36,710 --> 00:26:34,559 was a Structure behind it but he 598 00:26:39,529 --> 00:26:36,720 couldn't just quite make it out and 599 00:26:42,169 --> 00:26:39,539 though and then the the red that's my 600 00:26:44,269 --> 00:26:42,179 just my gut reaction then the and then 601 00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:44,279 the reddish orange lights or whatever 602 00:26:49,730 --> 00:26:47,039 you want to call them were at like more 603 00:26:51,830 --> 00:26:49,740 or less I don't wanna parts of it or 604 00:26:53,210 --> 00:26:51,840 corners of it or whatever that's just my 605 00:26:54,710 --> 00:26:53,220 gut reaction when we were kind of 606 00:26:58,130 --> 00:26:54,720 looking at where the horizontal lights 607 00:27:00,350 --> 00:26:58,140 were located and whatnot and and one 608 00:27:02,090 --> 00:27:00,360 thing I do want to add for for people 609 00:27:04,070 --> 00:27:02,100 who have looked at the couple photos or 610 00:27:06,649 --> 00:27:04,080 videos that I 611 00:27:07,850 --> 00:27:06,659 submitted to you Ryan 612 00:27:10,370 --> 00:27:07,860 um I just want to clarify something 613 00:27:12,590 --> 00:27:10,380 about the dusty look in the photos and 614 00:27:14,570 --> 00:27:12,600 the video of the object 615 00:27:16,370 --> 00:27:14,580 um because I'm sure some people wondered 616 00:27:17,750 --> 00:27:16,380 that is as I said the view and the 617 00:27:19,250 --> 00:27:17,760 photos of the videos 618 00:27:21,710 --> 00:27:19,260 um pretty much looks to the north of our 619 00:27:23,690 --> 00:27:21,720 house and I'm sure like I said a couple 620 00:27:25,370 --> 00:27:23,700 feet and no couple people noticed or 621 00:27:27,769 --> 00:27:25,380 many people or whatever notice some 622 00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:27,779 dustiness around the object 623 00:27:32,690 --> 00:27:30,240 um so here's what happened there's a 624 00:27:35,149 --> 00:27:32,700 limestone Quarry that is Northwest of 625 00:27:37,190 --> 00:27:35,159 our house and it takes up a goodly piece 626 00:27:39,350 --> 00:27:37,200 of desert and goes up to a certain spot 627 00:27:42,110 --> 00:27:39,360 at the base of the spring mountains well 628 00:27:43,789 --> 00:27:42,120 for some strange reason uh that quarry 629 00:27:45,649 --> 00:27:43,799 happened to be doing some work in the 630 00:27:48,230 --> 00:27:45,659 later evening that night and I don't 631 00:27:49,610 --> 00:27:48,240 know why because it's atypical 632 00:27:52,669 --> 00:27:49,620 um and whatever they were doing was 633 00:27:54,350 --> 00:27:52,679 kicking up quite a bit of desert dust uh 634 00:27:56,149 --> 00:27:54,360 plus that knife happened to be a very 635 00:27:57,890 --> 00:27:56,159 windy night like you hear that in the 636 00:27:59,450 --> 00:27:57,900 video you can kind of hear the effect of 637 00:28:00,950 --> 00:27:59,460 the wind 638 00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:00,960 um so it's kind of like a perfect score 639 00:28:05,330 --> 00:28:03,600 perfect storm so to speak to create kind 640 00:28:07,190 --> 00:28:05,340 of a low level of desert dust in the air 641 00:28:09,529 --> 00:28:07,200 it was kind of just hovering over the 642 00:28:11,210 --> 00:28:09,539 the surface and if you look like in a 643 00:28:14,570 --> 00:28:11,220 video above it you can see you know it's 644 00:28:15,710 --> 00:28:14,580 a nice bright black Sky 645 00:28:16,669 --> 00:28:15,720 um so that's why I just wanted to 646 00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:16,679 mention that because that's why the 647 00:28:19,850 --> 00:28:18,240 photo in the photos and videos you see 648 00:28:22,010 --> 00:28:19,860 the object through kind of a white thin 649 00:28:25,669 --> 00:28:22,020 Cloud well that's like desert dust that 650 00:28:28,010 --> 00:28:25,679 was whipping around in the wind and 651 00:28:30,529 --> 00:28:28,020 um unfortunately that was like that but 652 00:28:33,049 --> 00:28:30,539 it you know obviously it's it's fine but 653 00:28:35,930 --> 00:28:33,059 every night since then it's been just a 654 00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:35,940 completely clear view so 655 00:28:42,289 --> 00:28:39,600 um so that's kind of a strange twist so 656 00:28:45,409 --> 00:28:42,299 and Jim that was a question I had as 657 00:28:48,350 --> 00:28:45,419 well too is what was the weather like 658 00:28:52,070 --> 00:28:48,360 then was it a clear sky is this how you 659 00:28:54,110 --> 00:28:52,080 described yep it was pure bright black 660 00:28:55,370 --> 00:28:54,120 Starry Sky 661 00:28:56,930 --> 00:28:55,380 um the only thing is there was that 662 00:28:58,310 --> 00:28:56,940 lower level and you can kind of see 663 00:29:00,049 --> 00:28:58,320 exactly what I'm talking about if you 664 00:29:03,289 --> 00:29:00,059 watch the video and zooming in and out 665 00:29:05,870 --> 00:29:03,299 if it's just a relatively thin layer 666 00:29:08,630 --> 00:29:05,880 that's just above the surface but other 667 00:29:12,850 --> 00:29:08,640 than that this guy was completely clear 668 00:29:18,649 --> 00:29:15,649 Jeff you're really familiar with that 669 00:29:20,990 --> 00:29:18,659 area we've kind of uh you I mean you 670 00:29:22,789 --> 00:29:21,000 grew up here and we've we've kind of 671 00:29:25,730 --> 00:29:22,799 gone up into these mountain ranges 672 00:29:29,149 --> 00:29:25,740 before and you're familiar with like how 673 00:29:32,450 --> 00:29:29,159 little there is behind there 674 00:29:35,330 --> 00:29:32,460 um there there are some native remnants 675 00:29:37,490 --> 00:29:35,340 of like past tribes and things of that 676 00:29:39,470 --> 00:29:37,500 nature what what are your thoughts of 677 00:29:47,750 --> 00:29:39,480 all this Jeff having been you know born 678 00:29:53,210 --> 00:29:51,230 most of my life living there I never I 679 00:29:55,310 --> 00:29:53,220 mean besides just everything you've 680 00:29:59,029 --> 00:29:55,320 heard of Area 51 681 00:30:01,010 --> 00:29:59,039 you know I never saw UFOs or anything 682 00:30:02,930 --> 00:30:01,020 like that 683 00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:02,940 um it's just recently I mean it was the 684 00:30:08,570 --> 00:30:05,520 Steve Barone video that he captured over 685 00:30:11,810 --> 00:30:08,580 Little Red Rock there that really Drew 686 00:30:14,690 --> 00:30:11,820 my attention and uh as me and you have 687 00:30:17,210 --> 00:30:14,700 gone and looked at the petroglyphs up in 688 00:30:18,649 --> 00:30:17,220 that area they're really fascinating and 689 00:30:22,850 --> 00:30:18,659 there's some that are kind of 690 00:30:25,070 --> 00:30:22,860 undescribable almost who are they is are 691 00:30:27,710 --> 00:30:25,080 they depicting an alien in some of these 692 00:30:31,190 --> 00:30:27,720 petroglyphs out there and so I find it 693 00:30:35,029 --> 00:30:31,200 very fascinating that uh most of these 694 00:30:37,490 --> 00:30:35,039 UFOs that I'm seeing videos of are over 695 00:30:41,149 --> 00:30:37,500 that area so it makes me wonder what is 696 00:30:44,870 --> 00:30:41,159 going on right there and is there some 697 00:30:46,850 --> 00:30:44,880 importance there or I don't know I don't 698 00:30:49,490 --> 00:30:46,860 I don't know how to respond to that I'm 699 00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:49,500 that's why I'm so fascinating I mean you 700 00:30:53,930 --> 00:30:51,360 guys got me away from the Golden Knights 701 00:30:55,370 --> 00:30:53,940 hockey game to hear this because I gotta 702 00:30:58,070 --> 00:30:55,380 know more I got to know what the hell 703 00:31:01,490 --> 00:30:58,080 going on in that area 704 00:31:04,430 --> 00:31:01,500 to have this keep occurring because 705 00:31:05,570 --> 00:31:04,440 Steve Barone keeps putting out videos as 706 00:31:07,730 --> 00:31:05,580 well 707 00:31:10,430 --> 00:31:07,740 um you know he captures them over and 708 00:31:13,730 --> 00:31:10,440 over in that area so I'm just really 709 00:31:15,889 --> 00:31:13,740 fascinated and I'm so happy that you're 710 00:31:18,769 --> 00:31:15,899 sharing this with this God I I couldn't 711 00:31:21,049 --> 00:31:18,779 can't tell you how happy I am about this 712 00:31:23,930 --> 00:31:21,059 oh awesome 713 00:31:26,570 --> 00:31:23,940 and Scott I think you know what's so 714 00:31:28,490 --> 00:31:26,580 funny is the last time Jeff was in town 715 00:31:30,529 --> 00:31:28,500 which was not that long ago we were 716 00:31:34,909 --> 00:31:30,539 actually discussing this 717 00:31:37,789 --> 00:31:34,919 and we were talking about how we you can 718 00:31:41,230 --> 00:31:37,799 see lights on certain nights and they're 719 00:31:45,830 --> 00:31:41,240 in places where it's absolutely 720 00:31:47,990 --> 00:31:45,840 impossible for any vehicle or object or 721 00:31:51,230 --> 00:31:48,000 even even a low-flying aircraft would 722 00:31:55,490 --> 00:31:51,240 would not try to these these mountains 723 00:31:59,630 --> 00:31:55,500 are fairly rugged and the the way the 724 00:32:00,669 --> 00:31:59,640 lights appear manifest hover and 725 00:32:03,470 --> 00:32:00,679 disappear 726 00:32:08,210 --> 00:32:03,480 seems either 727 00:32:11,389 --> 00:32:08,220 either an absolute best it is a 728 00:32:13,789 --> 00:32:11,399 technology that I'm unfamiliar with and 729 00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:13,799 I guess that the strangest thing for me 730 00:32:21,649 --> 00:32:16,080 is what are their motives like or what 731 00:32:21,659 --> 00:32:26,649 you know Ryan yeah 732 00:32:32,630 --> 00:32:30,169 I don't know I mean I'm my mind is just 733 00:32:33,830 --> 00:32:32,640 spinning right now 734 00:32:36,769 --> 00:32:33,840 um but 735 00:32:37,730 --> 00:32:36,779 you're so right about that and and you 736 00:32:42,230 --> 00:32:37,740 know 737 00:32:45,769 --> 00:32:42,240 our technology is it something coming 738 00:32:49,789 --> 00:32:45,779 out of Area 51 because what a perfect 739 00:32:52,310 --> 00:32:49,799 place to be able to you know 740 00:32:54,529 --> 00:32:52,320 take things out and experiment with 741 00:32:57,649 --> 00:32:54,539 certain type of crafts because in Las 742 00:32:59,810 --> 00:32:57,659 Vegas the sky is very bright there 743 00:33:02,750 --> 00:32:59,820 um I mean you used to live here Ryan in 744 00:33:05,210 --> 00:33:02,760 in Salt Lake City where I live now and 745 00:33:07,010 --> 00:33:05,220 you know basically and I'm sure you know 746 00:33:09,289 --> 00:33:07,020 this too Scott you know you go travel to 747 00:33:12,289 --> 00:33:09,299 any other city and it's pretty dark 748 00:33:14,330 --> 00:33:12,299 every city at night time Las Vegas is a 749 00:33:16,970 --> 00:33:14,340 different story Las Vegas is very bright 750 00:33:19,250 --> 00:33:16,980 there's all kinds of Lights there so 751 00:33:21,950 --> 00:33:19,260 most people are not looking in the sky 752 00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:21,960 most people are not looking for strange 753 00:33:26,930 --> 00:33:24,480 objects in the sky and when you do 754 00:33:28,610 --> 00:33:26,940 can you really identify it because of 755 00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:28,620 all the things that happened in Las 756 00:33:35,330 --> 00:33:31,440 Vegas so I think it's a perfect place 757 00:33:37,430 --> 00:33:35,340 for you know if it's one of our crafts 758 00:33:39,529 --> 00:33:37,440 you know as far as like Black Ops 759 00:33:41,570 --> 00:33:39,539 project or something like that it's a 760 00:33:43,730 --> 00:33:41,580 perfect place to fly it because you know 761 00:33:47,149 --> 00:33:43,740 you can disguise it very easily in the 762 00:33:50,210 --> 00:33:47,159 sky there so again I'm my mind's just 763 00:33:52,669 --> 00:33:50,220 spinning right now on what is this and 764 00:33:55,789 --> 00:33:52,679 where did it come from 765 00:33:59,330 --> 00:33:55,799 and Scott you know we have a Mutual 766 00:34:04,269 --> 00:33:59,340 contact who has some upper military 767 00:34:07,009 --> 00:34:04,279 brass intelligence connections and 768 00:34:09,770 --> 00:34:07,019 basically when we were asking questions 769 00:34:12,889 --> 00:34:09,780 and asked if he could run some of this 770 00:34:14,930 --> 00:34:12,899 up the flagpole and get back to us his 771 00:34:19,669 --> 00:34:14,940 response was kind of strange and hard 772 00:34:22,149 --> 00:34:19,679 for me to uh believe because he claimed 773 00:34:26,030 --> 00:34:22,159 that it was 774 00:34:29,149 --> 00:34:26,040 a exotic propulsion test 775 00:34:32,690 --> 00:34:29,159 in the from the Creech Air Force Base 776 00:34:35,210 --> 00:34:32,700 now what I find odd about that is over 777 00:34:38,149 --> 00:34:35,220 there uh near Indian Springs and Creech 778 00:34:39,950 --> 00:34:38,159 that's a very small town and I would 779 00:34:42,349 --> 00:34:39,960 think that if anybody saw anything 780 00:34:46,430 --> 00:34:42,359 remotely like this it would make news 781 00:34:48,589 --> 00:34:46,440 however I haven't talked to anybody in 782 00:34:50,930 --> 00:34:48,599 that area who's seen anything like this 783 00:34:55,250 --> 00:34:50,940 so I mean can we believe everything not 784 00:34:57,310 --> 00:34:55,260 really or no what you know it's it's so 785 00:35:01,250 --> 00:34:57,320 tough and of course Nellis came forward 786 00:35:03,170 --> 00:35:01,260 very quickly which surprised me they 787 00:35:06,349 --> 00:35:03,180 came right out and said we had nothing 788 00:35:08,589 --> 00:35:06,359 to do with it and we didn't see anything 789 00:35:11,030 --> 00:35:08,599 uh-huh 790 00:35:13,970 --> 00:35:11,040 that's what it's not very familiar with 791 00:35:16,670 --> 00:35:13,980 is the Creech one uh because I've sat 792 00:35:19,250 --> 00:35:16,680 many nights out in that desert observing 793 00:35:21,650 --> 00:35:19,260 that area and I'm going to tell you what 794 00:35:25,370 --> 00:35:21,660 I've never seen anything come or leave 795 00:35:28,370 --> 00:35:25,380 from that place uh one bit and I've 796 00:35:30,950 --> 00:35:28,380 spent many many nights out there uh 797 00:35:33,470 --> 00:35:30,960 putting eyes on that the whole time not 798 00:35:36,290 --> 00:35:33,480 looking away and again I've never seen 799 00:35:39,950 --> 00:35:36,300 anything come from that base I do know 800 00:35:40,970 --> 00:35:39,960 it's one of the top drone bases in the 801 00:35:43,670 --> 00:35:40,980 world 802 00:35:45,650 --> 00:35:43,680 um and so it's a very interesting place 803 00:35:48,410 --> 00:35:45,660 but again I've never seen anything leave 804 00:35:50,930 --> 00:35:48,420 there I've never you know I've been deep 805 00:35:53,690 --> 00:35:50,940 into the desert there uh basically in 806 00:35:56,089 --> 00:35:53,700 area 54 and again I've never seen 807 00:35:59,750 --> 00:35:56,099 anything that I would say they're flying 808 00:36:01,609 --> 00:35:59,760 anything out of that area but again 809 00:36:04,370 --> 00:36:01,619 now I think this is the perfect 810 00:36:07,010 --> 00:36:04,380 playground for them to fly and test 811 00:36:08,450 --> 00:36:07,020 things out in the open and you know 812 00:36:10,370 --> 00:36:08,460 before you guys started this interview 813 00:36:13,010 --> 00:36:10,380 you guys brought up 814 00:36:16,730 --> 00:36:13,020 um the lights over Arizona the triangles 815 00:36:19,069 --> 00:36:16,740 craft over Arizona and uh I'm sure you 816 00:36:21,890 --> 00:36:19,079 guys are aware that it was first spotted 817 00:36:23,210 --> 00:36:21,900 over Henderson before it was spotted in 818 00:36:27,349 --> 00:36:23,220 in Arizona 819 00:36:30,349 --> 00:36:27,359 so I I constantly Wonder too is that 820 00:36:33,470 --> 00:36:30,359 something that is made from this Earth 821 00:36:35,930 --> 00:36:33,480 and where the you know I don't know 822 00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:35,940 there's a lot of questions well in in my 823 00:36:41,569 --> 00:36:38,640 opinion the when you compare all the 824 00:36:43,069 --> 00:36:41,579 different sightings that happened 825 00:36:46,609 --> 00:36:43,079 um in the last week 826 00:36:49,790 --> 00:36:46,619 uh around that one two or one or two day 827 00:36:52,790 --> 00:36:49,800 period where they were what they looked 828 00:36:54,050 --> 00:36:52,800 like and then of course with what I saw 829 00:36:58,670 --> 00:36:54,060 um as well 830 00:37:00,950 --> 00:36:58,680 I I think the the Creech explanation is 831 00:37:03,050 --> 00:37:00,960 just if that's what somebody said it's 832 00:37:06,410 --> 00:37:03,060 entirely a deflection of some sort 833 00:37:08,030 --> 00:37:06,420 because it just doesn't make sense with 834 00:37:10,430 --> 00:37:08,040 all of the different photos and videos 835 00:37:12,770 --> 00:37:10,440 that were captured that that would be 836 00:37:15,170 --> 00:37:12,780 what that individual was saying it would 837 00:37:17,569 --> 00:37:15,180 be or was 838 00:37:20,630 --> 00:37:17,579 um I just I just that just kind of 839 00:37:22,910 --> 00:37:20,640 smells funny to me that was my initial 840 00:37:27,530 --> 00:37:22,920 thought it seemed tantalizing at first 841 00:37:30,890 --> 00:37:27,540 but it made zero sense especially you 842 00:37:33,230 --> 00:37:30,900 know the angle and to report that it 843 00:37:34,490 --> 00:37:33,240 just it I I just have a hard time 844 00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:34,500 believing that 845 00:37:40,430 --> 00:37:38,160 and I and I and I actually I uh 846 00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:40,440 I actually 847 00:37:45,109 --> 00:37:42,960 kind of disagree with the Las Vegas area 848 00:37:48,890 --> 00:37:45,119 or even just the nearby mountains would 849 00:37:52,730 --> 00:37:48,900 be a perfect playground for Area 51 850 00:37:55,609 --> 00:37:52,740 um type experimentation or whatever 851 00:37:58,490 --> 00:37:55,619 um because yeah it's it certainly would 852 00:38:01,010 --> 00:37:58,500 be okay you know in a nice place but do 853 00:38:04,490 --> 00:38:01,020 they really need this place they already 854 00:38:07,550 --> 00:38:04,500 have a huge complex with absolutely 855 00:38:10,130 --> 00:38:07,560 nothing around it in every direction for 856 00:38:13,250 --> 00:38:10,140 oftentimes a hundred miles 857 00:38:16,609 --> 00:38:13,260 why would they even needed risks 858 00:38:19,670 --> 00:38:16,619 doing something experimental wise even 859 00:38:21,770 --> 00:38:19,680 if it's only fairly close to say the 860 00:38:25,010 --> 00:38:21,780 large population area I mean that's just 861 00:38:31,609 --> 00:38:25,020 my thought but that's a good question I 862 00:38:36,890 --> 00:38:33,950 maybe we are trying to see what the 863 00:38:40,490 --> 00:38:36,900 response is I mean I know Ryan you just 864 00:38:42,290 --> 00:38:40,500 did a a show on project bluebeam and I 865 00:38:44,329 --> 00:38:42,300 did as well 866 00:38:46,730 --> 00:38:44,339 um and so you know 867 00:38:47,870 --> 00:38:46,740 I have thoughts that are actually trying 868 00:38:51,890 --> 00:38:47,880 to 869 00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:51,900 get the public conditions for the UFOs 870 00:38:57,530 --> 00:38:54,240 now so maybe they can pull a project 871 00:38:59,569 --> 00:38:57,540 blue beam off and so this is where I'm 872 00:39:02,150 --> 00:38:59,579 wondering as well too is this something 873 00:39:04,370 --> 00:39:02,160 that they're doing intentionally to get 874 00:39:06,470 --> 00:39:04,380 the public talking about it and 875 00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:06,480 believing in the class because they've 876 00:39:10,250 --> 00:39:09,119 been denying it for so long I mean I 877 00:39:14,150 --> 00:39:10,260 don't know what's your thoughts on that 878 00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:15,910 go for it Scott 879 00:39:23,030 --> 00:39:19,440 well I I think yeah that's that could be 880 00:39:26,690 --> 00:39:23,040 you know more of a kind of a 881 00:39:28,970 --> 00:39:26,700 a step in the stairs you know kind of 882 00:39:33,349 --> 00:39:28,980 thing towards you know 883 00:39:41,089 --> 00:39:37,370 it it is eerily reminiscent of 884 00:39:44,329 --> 00:39:41,099 the Phoenix Lights especially the color 885 00:39:47,150 --> 00:39:44,339 the way it hovered and didn't move the 886 00:39:50,569 --> 00:39:47,160 usual players came out and tried to 887 00:39:53,150 --> 00:39:50,579 explain it away as these flares which 888 00:39:55,490 --> 00:39:53,160 that that I doubt that that it just 889 00:39:56,530 --> 00:39:55,500 didn't pass the smell test right the 890 00:40:00,589 --> 00:39:56,540 sniff test 891 00:40:05,089 --> 00:40:00,599 and you know there are a number of 892 00:40:08,870 --> 00:40:05,099 Defense contractors in that in that 893 00:40:10,030 --> 00:40:08,880 secretive base 75 miles north of where 894 00:40:14,210 --> 00:40:10,040 you live 895 00:40:16,250 --> 00:40:14,220 and they never like you said they they 896 00:40:18,710 --> 00:40:16,260 really don't need to come down here 897 00:40:21,290 --> 00:40:18,720 there's a reason that bass is so massive 898 00:40:22,970 --> 00:40:21,300 it's not small sized it's been they've 899 00:40:27,170 --> 00:40:22,980 been they've been working on that base 900 00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:27,180 for over 60 years and they have all of 901 00:40:34,609 --> 00:40:31,920 the area and places to do things that 902 00:40:36,650 --> 00:40:34,619 they you know you could they've I don't 903 00:40:39,050 --> 00:40:36,660 want to get into it but I mean there's 904 00:40:40,130 --> 00:40:39,060 no reason to come this close to the 905 00:40:42,589 --> 00:40:40,140 playground 906 00:40:44,510 --> 00:40:42,599 right there's not only is it massive but 907 00:40:45,829 --> 00:40:44,520 in every direction 908 00:40:49,130 --> 00:40:45,839 it's 909 00:40:51,710 --> 00:40:49,140 endless land where there's nothing you 910 00:40:53,990 --> 00:40:51,720 know so it's not easy accessible either 911 00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:54,000 it's super hard to get out into that 912 00:40:59,210 --> 00:40:57,119 area so your average person is not going 913 00:41:01,190 --> 00:40:59,220 to venture out in there it's just people 914 00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:01,200 like you know me and some of my friends 915 00:41:05,750 --> 00:41:03,599 that are very eager to find stuff out 916 00:41:08,690 --> 00:41:05,760 that will Journey out into those areas 917 00:41:10,190 --> 00:41:08,700 but to get deep into the base where 918 00:41:12,170 --> 00:41:10,200 they're doing this stuff you can't even 919 00:41:15,050 --> 00:41:12,180 get there so that's out of the question 920 00:41:16,910 --> 00:41:15,060 so I mean you're right there you know 921 00:41:20,450 --> 00:41:16,920 they have the perfect playground right 922 00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:20,460 there but if they want to see the 923 00:41:25,430 --> 00:41:23,280 Public's reaction then maybe that's 924 00:41:29,150 --> 00:41:25,440 where they do kind of bring it out into 925 00:41:31,490 --> 00:41:29,160 this area I'm not sure you know 926 00:41:33,829 --> 00:41:31,500 and you know things are not always what 927 00:41:38,150 --> 00:41:33,839 they appear and unfortunately with Area 928 00:41:40,849 --> 00:41:38,160 51 and uh you know Nellis and a bunch of 929 00:41:43,790 --> 00:41:40,859 the other bases there is kind of a 930 00:41:47,630 --> 00:41:43,800 muddled history of people claiming to 931 00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:47,640 have seen things or worked on projects I 932 00:41:52,790 --> 00:41:50,400 Charles Hall comes to mind of course Bob 933 00:41:55,130 --> 00:41:52,800 Lazar Jeff you have some interesting 934 00:41:57,950 --> 00:41:55,140 information on Bob Lazar could you share 935 00:42:00,530 --> 00:41:57,960 that with Scott and kind of explain your 936 00:42:02,089 --> 00:42:00,540 connection to Bob 937 00:42:04,849 --> 00:42:02,099 yeah 938 00:42:06,410 --> 00:42:04,859 um you know I I didn't really know who 939 00:42:08,210 --> 00:42:06,420 he was at first 940 00:42:12,829 --> 00:42:08,220 um at the time 941 00:42:16,069 --> 00:42:12,839 um this was back in uh 1988 and 1989 uh 942 00:42:19,870 --> 00:42:16,079 my best friend at the time his mom was 943 00:42:24,109 --> 00:42:19,880 uh one of the top psychiatrists in town 944 00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:24,119 and she's very well known and this guy 945 00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:26,400 would come over to her house and we 946 00:42:30,290 --> 00:42:28,560 would get kicked out of the house and we 947 00:42:32,690 --> 00:42:30,300 didn't really care we kind of knew who 948 00:42:35,390 --> 00:42:32,700 Bob was because he actually was on the 949 00:42:38,630 --> 00:42:35,400 news uh for his rocket cars and stuff 950 00:42:40,849 --> 00:42:38,640 like that and so he would come over and 951 00:42:43,370 --> 00:42:40,859 he had this amazing Corvette with the 952 00:42:53,890 --> 00:42:43,380 roll cage in there and he had this 953 00:42:59,569 --> 00:42:56,810 what he wanted the radar for the police 954 00:43:01,790 --> 00:42:59,579 radar to to read and so he could be 955 00:43:04,190 --> 00:43:01,800 doing 150 in his Corvette and have it 956 00:43:07,010 --> 00:43:04,200 typed in for 55 miles an hour if he 957 00:43:09,109 --> 00:43:07,020 wanted to and so we would get kicked out 958 00:43:11,390 --> 00:43:09,119 of the house and again we didn't care 959 00:43:13,250 --> 00:43:11,400 we go out into looking at his Corvette 960 00:43:15,109 --> 00:43:13,260 you know we're two 18 year old kids that 961 00:43:17,750 --> 00:43:15,119 are just like wow check this thing out 962 00:43:21,050 --> 00:43:17,760 this is absolutely amazing and then 963 00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:21,060 months down the road is when everything 964 00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:23,760 busted out with uh George Knapp and 965 00:43:29,990 --> 00:43:27,599 everything about him uh you know being a 966 00:43:33,589 --> 00:43:30,000 whistleblower for Area 51 it was like 967 00:43:35,089 --> 00:43:33,599 holy cow that's him wow and you know she 968 00:43:37,790 --> 00:43:35,099 always claimed that they were just 969 00:43:40,130 --> 00:43:37,800 friends and so at the time I believed it 970 00:43:42,050 --> 00:43:40,140 but you know it was years and years 971 00:43:44,750 --> 00:43:42,060 later that I started to really think 972 00:43:48,410 --> 00:43:44,760 about it and go you know what maybe they 973 00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:48,420 were maybe that was her her client you 974 00:43:52,430 --> 00:43:50,400 know because he was dealing with a lot 975 00:43:54,589 --> 00:43:52,440 of different stuff at that time that he 976 00:43:56,809 --> 00:43:54,599 talks about you know being shot out 977 00:43:59,569 --> 00:43:56,819 especially after he turned uh 978 00:44:01,730 --> 00:43:59,579 whistleblower but there was a lot of 979 00:44:04,250 --> 00:44:01,740 emotional stuff that he was dealing with 980 00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:04,260 so maybe he was actually there as a 981 00:44:09,170 --> 00:44:06,720 client seeing her and that's why we were 982 00:44:11,210 --> 00:44:09,180 being kicked out of the house 983 00:44:12,890 --> 00:44:11,220 um so it was very interesting and you 984 00:44:14,569 --> 00:44:12,900 know I remember walking past him you 985 00:44:16,730 --> 00:44:14,579 know several times as he was going in 986 00:44:18,349 --> 00:44:16,740 and we were going out 987 00:44:21,650 --> 00:44:18,359 um you know never really talked to him 988 00:44:25,130 --> 00:44:21,660 because again I had no idea who who he 989 00:44:27,710 --> 00:44:25,140 was going to become in the future and uh 990 00:44:30,170 --> 00:44:27,720 you know so it was very amazing and uh 991 00:44:32,809 --> 00:44:30,180 very interesting I think that's a really 992 00:44:36,109 --> 00:44:32,819 cool story I'm I'm familiar with the Bob 993 00:44:38,089 --> 00:44:36,119 was ours the Bob Lazar story and I find 994 00:44:41,270 --> 00:44:38,099 it really fascinating 995 00:44:43,190 --> 00:44:41,280 Scott have you heard this is sort of an 996 00:44:45,950 --> 00:44:43,200 interesting the only reason I bring this 997 00:44:48,609 --> 00:44:45,960 up is this is something that happened in 998 00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:48,619 that same desert it's the same basic 999 00:44:55,849 --> 00:44:52,800 angle of or Direction where those lights 1000 00:45:02,390 --> 00:44:55,859 showed up uh have you heard of the story 1001 00:45:07,490 --> 00:45:04,309 I think so 1002 00:45:09,589 --> 00:45:07,500 okay there was it's interesting because 1003 00:45:11,690 --> 00:45:09,599 you can it you can do a quick YouTube 1004 00:45:15,050 --> 00:45:11,700 search of it and the information that's 1005 00:45:17,329 --> 00:45:15,060 out there it's just enough to make it 1006 00:45:20,750 --> 00:45:17,339 super weird with like of course the 1007 00:45:23,510 --> 00:45:20,760 abrupt open-ended uh 1008 00:45:25,550 --> 00:45:23,520 ending which which nobody knows what 1009 00:45:28,609 --> 00:45:25,560 happened to this individual but there 1010 00:45:32,089 --> 00:45:28,619 was a hiker who kind of 1011 00:45:35,870 --> 00:45:32,099 took pride in going way out into these 1012 00:45:40,910 --> 00:45:35,880 Outback areas and he came across a cave 1013 00:45:43,750 --> 00:45:40,920 in the shape of an m and he 1014 00:45:46,910 --> 00:45:43,760 something about the cave and energy 1015 00:45:49,609 --> 00:45:46,920 he said that he felt strangely he didn't 1016 00:45:51,349 --> 00:45:49,619 want to go in it he he he mentioned the 1017 00:45:54,050 --> 00:45:51,359 possibility of something 1018 00:45:56,329 --> 00:45:54,060 other worldly possibly living in this 1019 00:45:58,910 --> 00:45:56,339 cave and he posted this on his YouTube 1020 00:46:01,069 --> 00:45:58,920 channel and he kind of got shamed into 1021 00:46:03,349 --> 00:46:01,079 you know why didn't you go in there well 1022 00:46:06,650 --> 00:46:03,359 he went back for another round into the 1023 00:46:08,630 --> 00:46:06,660 M cave and it was in this General uh 1024 00:46:11,510 --> 00:46:08,640 Direction this vicinity that we're 1025 00:46:13,670 --> 00:46:11,520 talking about and he never came back he 1026 00:46:16,609 --> 00:46:13,680 was uh that was the end so we don't know 1027 00:46:19,370 --> 00:46:16,619 if he went in the EM cave if he came out 1028 00:46:21,530 --> 00:46:19,380 of the M cave uh he was he was a Las 1029 00:46:24,290 --> 00:46:21,540 Vegas local he still has family here in 1030 00:46:26,569 --> 00:46:24,300 Vegas and yeah it's an interesting quick 1031 00:46:29,089 --> 00:46:26,579 Google search and kind of a kind of a 1032 00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:29,099 quick tidy rabbit hole if you want to go 1033 00:46:34,370 --> 00:46:30,960 down at some time 1034 00:46:36,470 --> 00:46:34,380 so so nobody knows where this MK M cave 1035 00:46:38,510 --> 00:46:36,480 is then apparently 1036 00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:38,520 you know it is 1037 00:46:45,109 --> 00:46:42,240 a a general vicinity yes like uh as far 1038 00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:45,119 as but not exactly exactly yeah that's 1039 00:46:49,130 --> 00:46:47,280 exactly right nobody knows exactly where 1040 00:46:51,470 --> 00:46:49,140 it's at and people have gone back 1041 00:46:54,710 --> 00:46:51,480 through his Youtube footage trying to 1042 00:46:56,930 --> 00:46:54,720 find it and uh it's kind of eerie it's 1043 00:46:59,150 --> 00:46:56,940 kind of eerie and not only is it eerie 1044 00:47:03,109 --> 00:46:59,160 but there's inconsistencies in the 1045 00:47:08,829 --> 00:47:03,119 actual story itself so they did find his 1046 00:47:11,809 --> 00:47:08,839 cell phone at a strange open mind shaft 1047 00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:11,819 and the open mine shaft had some 1048 00:47:16,970 --> 00:47:14,640 inconsistencies to the video where he 1049 00:47:19,970 --> 00:47:16,980 posted video of this open mine shaft 1050 00:47:21,589 --> 00:47:19,980 before others went to that same mine 1051 00:47:24,650 --> 00:47:21,599 shaft thinking well it's obvious he fell 1052 00:47:28,010 --> 00:47:24,660 down the mine shaft and the mine shaft 1053 00:47:30,650 --> 00:47:28,020 had changed the entrance there had wood 1054 00:47:34,550 --> 00:47:30,660 that was uh 1055 00:47:36,109 --> 00:47:34,560 missing and it was obvious that planks 1056 00:47:38,210 --> 00:47:36,119 had been broken but he was not at the 1057 00:47:40,809 --> 00:47:38,220 bottom of the mine shaft so there are 1058 00:47:44,930 --> 00:47:40,819 some really strange parts of the story 1059 00:47:46,670 --> 00:47:44,940 uh that that don't make sense 1060 00:47:48,589 --> 00:47:46,680 sounds like somebody almost planted the 1061 00:47:50,750 --> 00:47:48,599 cell phone there to make it look like he 1062 00:47:53,150 --> 00:47:50,760 fell into a mine shaft but that's 1063 00:47:54,770 --> 00:47:53,160 exactly what it that's exactly what if 1064 00:47:56,390 --> 00:47:54,780 you if you have any kind of 1065 00:47:58,250 --> 00:47:56,400 investigative skill at all that's 1066 00:47:59,809 --> 00:47:58,260 exactly what it seems like like it was 1067 00:48:01,790 --> 00:47:59,819 planted 1068 00:48:03,829 --> 00:48:01,800 hmm 1069 00:48:06,530 --> 00:48:03,839 interesting yeah surprising but 1070 00:48:08,930 --> 00:48:06,540 interesting yeah it is it is super 1071 00:48:11,809 --> 00:48:08,940 interesting and you know it's 1072 00:48:14,210 --> 00:48:11,819 unfortunate that uh people like Bob 1073 00:48:16,490 --> 00:48:14,220 Lazar and Charles Hall was recently in 1074 00:48:19,010 --> 00:48:16,500 town it's people it's unfortunate that 1075 00:48:22,069 --> 00:48:19,020 it seems like anybody that talks about 1076 00:48:24,589 --> 00:48:22,079 this stuff at least in the past and they 1077 00:48:26,990 --> 00:48:24,599 had any kind of clearance whatsoever are 1078 00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:27,000 just uh brushed under the rug as being 1079 00:48:32,089 --> 00:48:29,280 not even whistleblowers but seeking 1080 00:48:33,770 --> 00:48:32,099 attention where the opposite tends to 1081 00:48:36,050 --> 00:48:33,780 happen you know when you say these 1082 00:48:38,290 --> 00:48:36,060 things these guys that claim to have 1083 00:48:42,589 --> 00:48:38,300 worked for these 1084 00:48:44,270 --> 00:48:42,599 installations and facilities and claim 1085 00:48:46,970 --> 00:48:44,280 to have seen something out of the 1086 00:48:49,190 --> 00:48:46,980 ordinary they get the exact opposite 1087 00:48:51,349 --> 00:48:49,200 effect of what anybody thinks they would 1088 00:48:53,510 --> 00:48:51,359 be trying to get and it makes total 1089 00:48:55,870 --> 00:48:53,520 sense to me why Bob tries to kind of 1090 00:48:59,809 --> 00:48:55,880 stay out of the Limelight I don't know 1091 00:49:02,030 --> 00:48:59,819 yeah and I do think and and I'm very 1092 00:49:03,530 --> 00:49:02,040 appreciative of Bob Lazar and what he 1093 00:49:05,150 --> 00:49:03,540 did and what he represents and I do 1094 00:49:07,550 --> 00:49:05,160 think he's received 1095 00:49:10,849 --> 00:49:07,560 some level of vindication as the years 1096 00:49:16,309 --> 00:49:10,859 have gone by but not nearly enough 1097 00:49:20,210 --> 00:49:17,650 yeah 1098 00:49:23,569 --> 00:49:20,220 oh what's that Jeff 1099 00:49:25,849 --> 00:49:23,579 it's not 100 I think Bob is definitely 1100 00:49:29,089 --> 00:49:25,859 has been Vindicated in a lot of 1101 00:49:32,329 --> 00:49:29,099 different things and you know the 1102 00:49:35,690 --> 00:49:32,339 backlash that he's taken from coming out 1103 00:49:38,690 --> 00:49:35,700 and talking about this and exposing it I 1104 00:49:41,150 --> 00:49:38,700 think was not what he was expecting and 1105 00:49:43,130 --> 00:49:41,160 you know one reason why he you know 1106 00:49:43,910 --> 00:49:43,140 basically tried to hide after all of 1107 00:49:46,550 --> 00:49:43,920 that 1108 00:49:49,550 --> 00:49:46,560 um you know it changed his life and not 1109 00:49:52,370 --> 00:49:49,560 the way that somebody would expect like 1110 00:49:54,829 --> 00:49:52,380 a a good thing it was definitely a 1111 00:49:57,349 --> 00:49:54,839 negative aspect in his life I think once 1112 00:49:59,690 --> 00:49:57,359 he exposed what he did 1113 00:50:01,970 --> 00:49:59,700 um but I do think he has been Vindicated 1114 00:50:04,609 --> 00:50:01,980 in a lot of different ways from what he 1115 00:50:06,530 --> 00:50:04,619 exposed especially if you go back to 1116 00:50:08,270 --> 00:50:06,540 some of those original interviews that 1117 00:50:10,250 --> 00:50:08,280 he did with George Knapp and what he 1118 00:50:12,410 --> 00:50:10,260 talks about and then what they're 1119 00:50:14,210 --> 00:50:12,420 talking about today I I definitely 1120 00:50:15,230 --> 00:50:14,220 believe he's been Vindicated in a lot of 1121 00:50:18,470 --> 00:50:15,240 ways 1122 00:50:21,170 --> 00:50:18,480 and you know that base even even the 1123 00:50:24,410 --> 00:50:21,180 real stuff that has come out of this 1124 00:50:28,490 --> 00:50:24,420 area is pretty fascinating even in the 1125 00:50:32,270 --> 00:50:28,500 late 50s and early 60s DARPA was working 1126 00:50:34,930 --> 00:50:32,280 on you know these new frontier craft as 1127 00:50:38,770 --> 00:50:34,940 they called him one was Project Orion 1128 00:50:41,089 --> 00:50:38,780 and we're talking about back then even 1129 00:50:43,010 --> 00:50:41,099 nuclear-powered spaceships you know 1130 00:50:45,349 --> 00:50:43,020 which they were trying to get to Mars 1131 00:50:46,490 --> 00:50:45,359 and this was back in the late 50s and 1132 00:50:50,270 --> 00:50:46,500 60s 1133 00:50:52,970 --> 00:50:50,280 so it you know I I it's so hard when 1134 00:50:55,010 --> 00:50:52,980 you're in this realm of thought and you 1135 00:50:58,130 --> 00:50:55,020 see craft and you you're trying to 1136 00:51:00,290 --> 00:50:58,140 figure out what it might be because 1137 00:51:02,690 --> 00:51:00,300 you know these these propulsion 1138 00:51:04,430 --> 00:51:02,700 Technologies are moving in all kinds of 1139 00:51:07,970 --> 00:51:04,440 different directions you have the 1140 00:51:10,190 --> 00:51:07,980 nuclear you have the anti-gravity you 1141 00:51:13,849 --> 00:51:10,200 there's so many they have these new 1142 00:51:16,190 --> 00:51:13,859 these new liquid light engines that 1143 00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:16,200 they're working on which makes zero 1144 00:51:24,710 --> 00:51:19,440 sense to my little like monkey brain but 1145 00:51:27,829 --> 00:51:24,720 it is unreal the classified technologies 1146 00:51:30,650 --> 00:51:27,839 that they're working on and yet then you 1147 00:51:32,630 --> 00:51:30,660 have Elon Musk you know his Rockets are 1148 00:51:35,390 --> 00:51:32,640 blowing up so it's like what do you 1149 00:51:38,690 --> 00:51:35,400 believe it just seems like can we 1150 00:51:40,609 --> 00:51:38,700 believe anything or what indeed is 1151 00:51:42,410 --> 00:51:40,619 taking place do we believe what the 1152 00:51:46,190 --> 00:51:42,420 government tells us do we believe what 1153 00:51:48,829 --> 00:51:46,200 we see on TV or do you believe what is 1154 00:51:51,470 --> 00:51:48,839 slowly leaked you know from these 1155 00:51:53,329 --> 00:51:51,480 Declassified programs and I mean that 1156 00:51:55,750 --> 00:51:53,339 that freaks me out you know that in the 1157 00:51:58,069 --> 00:51:55,760 50s we're working on you know 1158 00:52:00,829 --> 00:51:58,079 nuclear-powered spacecraft I mean it's 1159 00:52:04,670 --> 00:52:00,839 mind-blowing 1160 00:52:13,849 --> 00:52:08,710 what are your thoughts on the uh 1161 00:52:16,670 --> 00:52:13,859 the possibility that Vegas is 1162 00:52:19,609 --> 00:52:16,680 encountering something that may not be 1163 00:52:21,829 --> 00:52:19,619 military do you think that that is a 1164 00:52:24,890 --> 00:52:21,839 possibility Scott 1165 00:52:26,329 --> 00:52:24,900 uh about what happened say last week 1166 00:52:31,370 --> 00:52:26,339 yeah 1167 00:52:33,829 --> 00:52:31,380 oh I definitely think it's a possibility 1168 00:52:38,089 --> 00:52:33,839 um you know I mean I wish I knew what it 1169 00:52:40,010 --> 00:52:38,099 was and possibly someday we will but I 1170 00:52:41,930 --> 00:52:40,020 personally don't think it's something 1171 00:52:44,030 --> 00:52:41,940 that can be explained away with any of 1172 00:52:47,089 --> 00:52:44,040 those you know typical over utilized 1173 00:52:49,190 --> 00:52:47,099 canned explanations obviously it's not a 1174 00:52:51,890 --> 00:52:49,200 balloon it's not flares it's not Chinese 1175 00:52:53,450 --> 00:52:51,900 lanterns and I also don't think it was 1176 00:52:56,270 --> 00:52:53,460 either of the other more standard 1177 00:52:59,210 --> 00:52:56,280 answers of it being our military testing 1178 00:53:01,730 --> 00:52:59,220 new technology or it being another 1179 00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:01,740 country's unknown technology those are 1180 00:53:08,809 --> 00:53:06,000 seem to be the anders answers that a lot 1181 00:53:10,970 --> 00:53:08,819 of people just spit out voluntary or 1182 00:53:12,950 --> 00:53:10,980 involuntarily almost 1183 00:53:16,250 --> 00:53:12,960 um because I just think it's crazy to 1184 00:53:18,470 --> 00:53:16,260 think that we or another country would 1185 00:53:20,870 --> 00:53:18,480 test or send 1186 00:53:22,430 --> 00:53:20,880 unknown technology over areas where 1187 00:53:25,190 --> 00:53:22,440 there's people let alone heavily 1188 00:53:26,569 --> 00:53:25,200 populated area populated areas just 1189 00:53:29,930 --> 00:53:26,579 because the risk of something going 1190 00:53:32,809 --> 00:53:29,940 wrong or becoming compromised is is 1191 00:53:38,030 --> 00:53:32,819 far too great you know there'd be 1192 00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:40,849 yeah that's the truth I agree the the 1193 00:53:47,930 --> 00:53:44,880 the the strangest thing to me is the 1194 00:53:50,089 --> 00:53:47,940 location you know why would 1195 00:53:53,150 --> 00:53:50,099 you'd be testing something that's 1196 00:53:57,170 --> 00:53:53,160 supposed to be hidden or veiled behind 1197 00:53:59,990 --> 00:53:57,180 secrecy in such a populated area so that 1198 00:54:01,910 --> 00:54:00,000 kind of in my opinion that sort of rules 1199 00:54:03,530 --> 00:54:01,920 out the military thing unless it's like 1200 00:54:05,210 --> 00:54:03,540 some guy's bachelor party and they 1201 00:54:07,910 --> 00:54:05,220 wanted to see the Vegas Strip it makes 1202 00:54:13,490 --> 00:54:10,370 yeah exactly and 1203 00:54:15,410 --> 00:54:13,500 and it just drives me crazy when you 1204 00:54:16,849 --> 00:54:15,420 know say some of these Navy videos and 1205 00:54:18,349 --> 00:54:16,859 whatnot that have been released in the 1206 00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:18,359 last few years somebody says oh it's 1207 00:54:23,630 --> 00:54:20,880 Russia or it's China they got this thing 1208 00:54:26,569 --> 00:54:23,640 they're flying yeah China Russia really 1209 00:54:30,770 --> 00:54:26,579 wants to fly this 1210 00:54:33,230 --> 00:54:30,780 hyper technological you know vehicle or 1211 00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:33,240 whatever you want to call it within 20 1212 00:54:39,829 --> 00:54:36,480 miles of the border of the United States 1213 00:54:42,170 --> 00:54:39,839 when absolutely something could happen 1214 00:54:44,089 --> 00:54:42,180 to where that technology would be 1215 00:54:45,710 --> 00:54:44,099 compromised and the U.S would get it so 1216 00:54:49,730 --> 00:54:45,720 why in the world would a foreign country 1217 00:54:56,210 --> 00:54:53,450 I agree and you know with 1218 00:54:59,170 --> 00:54:56,220 eight thousands I think it's 8 000 1219 00:55:01,790 --> 00:54:59,180 square kilometers 1220 00:55:06,430 --> 00:55:01,800 that Nellis 1221 00:55:10,910 --> 00:55:06,440 has and then we have of course Area 51 1222 00:55:13,970 --> 00:55:10,920 who you know as far as UFO people go 1223 00:55:17,030 --> 00:55:13,980 that's a top destination I mean there's 1224 00:55:20,089 --> 00:55:17,040 so many eyewitness reports of craft 1225 00:55:23,210 --> 00:55:20,099 hovering over those nearby mountains 1226 00:55:26,450 --> 00:55:23,220 which could be similar to this one 1227 00:55:29,390 --> 00:55:26,460 however when you're that close to a U.S 1228 00:55:31,790 --> 00:55:29,400 government facility I I highly doubt 1229 00:55:34,130 --> 00:55:31,800 that it's extraterrestrial unless 1230 00:55:36,470 --> 00:55:34,140 there's some working agreement which 1231 00:55:38,809 --> 00:55:36,480 brings in like a whole other Enigma 1232 00:55:40,370 --> 00:55:38,819 right right and you certainly hear a lot 1233 00:55:44,569 --> 00:55:40,380 about that too but 1234 00:55:47,750 --> 00:55:44,579 yeah it is a strange one I I have a I I 1235 00:55:50,510 --> 00:55:47,760 have a contact who claims and this was 1236 00:55:53,569 --> 00:55:50,520 this was back when John Lear was still 1237 00:55:57,290 --> 00:55:53,579 alive John Lear was backing this up 1238 00:55:58,210 --> 00:55:57,300 and there was basically a contact that 1239 00:56:01,309 --> 00:55:58,220 said 1240 00:56:03,049 --> 00:56:01,319 that there were in fact some layers 1241 00:56:05,990 --> 00:56:03,059 stuff was a little bit out there so take 1242 00:56:07,609 --> 00:56:06,000 this with a grain of salt but he said 1243 00:56:10,490 --> 00:56:07,619 that 1244 00:56:12,230 --> 00:56:10,500 the extraterrestrials preferred to be in 1245 00:56:15,049 --> 00:56:12,240 the deserts around Las Vegas because 1246 00:56:18,890 --> 00:56:15,059 they liked to go into town from time to 1247 00:56:20,270 --> 00:56:18,900 time and that they would dress up in 1248 00:56:23,750 --> 00:56:20,280 burkas 1249 00:56:27,170 --> 00:56:23,760 and hit the casinos and have security 1250 00:56:28,910 --> 00:56:27,180 with them which was expected and you 1251 00:56:32,270 --> 00:56:28,920 know people would just think that they 1252 00:56:35,150 --> 00:56:32,280 were Middle Eastern Sheiks and they'd be 1253 00:56:38,210 --> 00:56:35,160 able to go into the casinos you know see 1254 00:56:40,910 --> 00:56:38,220 the sights hear the sounds smell the 1255 00:56:42,410 --> 00:56:40,920 smells and they really enjoyed that and 1256 00:56:45,410 --> 00:56:42,420 that there was an array of tunnels 1257 00:56:47,630 --> 00:56:45,420 underneath the strip which would 1258 00:56:52,010 --> 00:56:47,640 facilitate this and at the time my wife 1259 00:56:54,290 --> 00:56:52,020 was working uh at down on the Strip on a 1260 00:56:57,109 --> 00:56:54,300 casino that they were remodeling 1261 00:56:59,089 --> 00:56:57,119 and she's in development she's now up 1262 00:57:02,390 --> 00:56:59,099 here in our neck of the woods Scott kind 1263 00:57:03,890 --> 00:57:02,400 of developing homes up here but the 1264 00:57:05,569 --> 00:57:03,900 interesting thing is 1265 00:57:08,510 --> 00:57:05,579 you know she said oh that's super 1266 00:57:11,329 --> 00:57:08,520 far-fetched and so did her uh project 1267 00:57:13,970 --> 00:57:11,339 manager buddy and then about a month 1268 00:57:17,210 --> 00:57:13,980 later I got a call from her friend and 1269 00:57:20,089 --> 00:57:17,220 he said oh man I gotta tell you this we 1270 00:57:22,549 --> 00:57:20,099 were behind a casino working with our 1271 00:57:27,349 --> 00:57:22,559 gear and one of our 1272 00:57:29,210 --> 00:57:27,359 machines fell through into a tunnel and 1273 00:57:30,950 --> 00:57:29,220 we we called the city and told them 1274 00:57:32,750 --> 00:57:30,960 about it they didn't know about it they 1275 00:57:35,569 --> 00:57:32,760 didn't know what we could do about it 1276 00:57:38,270 --> 00:57:35,579 and so they basically 1277 00:57:41,150 --> 00:57:38,280 covered it all up in it so to speak they 1278 00:57:42,530 --> 00:57:41,160 they had within the legal parameters but 1279 00:57:43,970 --> 00:57:42,540 they had to kind of put everything back 1280 00:57:47,030 --> 00:57:43,980 together the way it was even though 1281 00:57:48,890 --> 00:57:47,040 nobody knows where this tunnel went what 1282 00:57:51,349 --> 00:57:48,900 it was used for 1283 00:57:52,790 --> 00:57:51,359 um why it was being maintained but it 1284 00:57:54,589 --> 00:57:52,800 was in the contract that they had to 1285 00:57:57,410 --> 00:57:54,599 leave everything the way they found it 1286 00:58:01,010 --> 00:57:57,420 and it kind of just was reminiscent to 1287 00:58:03,170 --> 00:58:01,020 me of the crazy old Vegas stories of you 1288 00:58:04,970 --> 00:58:03,180 know John Lear and whether this was 1289 00:58:06,530 --> 00:58:04,980 really for extraterrestrials or could 1290 00:58:08,870 --> 00:58:06,540 they just be mob tunnels you know to 1291 00:58:11,450 --> 00:58:08,880 just easily get Elites or higher-ups 1292 00:58:15,650 --> 00:58:11,460 into the casino I don't know but there 1293 00:58:18,349 --> 00:58:15,660 are in fact those tunnels and one of the 1294 00:58:21,530 --> 00:58:18,359 entrances I've shown it to Jeff is down 1295 00:58:22,910 --> 00:58:21,540 near city center and that's that's the 1296 00:58:26,089 --> 00:58:22,920 one they fell through but there were 1297 00:58:30,290 --> 00:58:26,099 some others over there near the uh near 1298 00:58:32,569 --> 00:58:30,300 the SLS and on Sahara so I don't know I 1299 00:58:34,730 --> 00:58:32,579 don't know exactly what the future holds 1300 00:58:36,710 --> 00:58:34,740 for Vegas but the past is definitely 1301 00:58:38,990 --> 00:58:36,720 very interesting 1302 00:58:41,870 --> 00:58:39,000 yeah well John layer was certainly 1303 00:58:45,410 --> 00:58:41,880 dialed in that's for sure so 1304 00:58:48,530 --> 00:58:45,420 yeah he he was he was an enigma man very 1305 00:58:50,630 --> 00:58:48,540 very interesting guy even even in his 1306 00:58:53,990 --> 00:58:50,640 later years when I would talk to him and 1307 00:58:56,329 --> 00:58:54,000 he'd have you know really kind of stuff 1308 00:59:00,170 --> 00:58:56,339 that nobody should have to go to through 1309 00:59:03,349 --> 00:59:00,180 at those ages he just took it like like 1310 00:59:04,930 --> 00:59:03,359 like a like a stud like he's just like 1311 00:59:08,870 --> 00:59:04,940 oh that's just life you know whatever 1312 00:59:11,089 --> 00:59:08,880 and you know most people at those ages 1313 00:59:13,309 --> 00:59:11,099 just want to retire peacefully and 1314 00:59:14,990 --> 00:59:13,319 calmly and he'd have he'd have all of 1315 00:59:16,490 --> 00:59:15,000 this drama going on and he'd just be 1316 00:59:19,130 --> 00:59:16,500 like ah it's no big deal in the big 1317 00:59:19,730 --> 00:59:19,140 bigger scheme of things anyway 1318 00:59:21,829 --> 00:59:19,740 um 1319 00:59:25,730 --> 00:59:21,839 anything else that we want to delve into 1320 00:59:29,690 --> 00:59:27,589 no no I 1321 00:59:31,609 --> 00:59:29,700 I think we covered quite a bit uh 1322 00:59:32,930 --> 00:59:31,619 nothing I can think of off the top of my 1323 00:59:36,289 --> 00:59:32,940 head right now 1324 00:59:39,470 --> 00:59:36,299 man I I think you did a really good job 1325 00:59:41,569 --> 00:59:39,480 of explaining what you witnessed Scott I 1326 00:59:43,430 --> 00:59:41,579 can't appreciate you enough for coming 1327 00:59:46,069 --> 00:59:43,440 on here and explaining it all it kind of 1328 00:59:49,069 --> 00:59:46,079 puts everything into perspective and 1329 00:59:50,750 --> 00:59:49,079 yeah man uh stay in touch and and reach 1330 00:59:53,809 --> 00:59:50,760 out keep those eyes to the skies because 1331 00:59:57,109 --> 00:59:53,819 you are in a very unique position there 1332 00:59:58,789 --> 00:59:57,119 and your view into the night skies is 1333 01:00:01,309 --> 00:59:58,799 phenomenal 1334 01:00:03,950 --> 01:00:01,319 all right well thank you and yeah I will 1335 01:00:09,049 --> 01:00:03,960 I will get in touch with you if when the 1336 01:00:16,670 --> 01:00:12,170 so knowledgeable I'm glad that he was 1337 01:00:18,890 --> 01:00:16,680 able to concisely explain what he and 1338 01:00:20,150 --> 01:00:18,900 his partner saw that night and why they 1339 01:00:22,609 --> 01:00:20,160 recorded 1340 01:00:26,210 --> 01:00:22,619 the amazing footage they gathered in my 1341 01:00:27,890 --> 01:00:26,220 opinion Scott tappy has the best footage 1342 01:00:30,770 --> 01:00:27,900 out there and I've seen quite a bit of 1343 01:00:33,170 --> 01:00:30,780 it had quite a few different clips sent 1344 01:00:35,809 --> 01:00:33,180 to me what I like about all the various 1345 01:00:40,190 --> 01:00:35,819 Clips is that we are able to hopefully 1346 01:00:42,650 --> 01:00:40,200 triangulate and use timestamps and kind 1347 01:00:46,309 --> 01:00:42,660 of gather more information I don't think 1348 01:00:48,770 --> 01:00:46,319 that this is over yet I'm going to 1349 01:00:52,730 --> 01:00:48,780 continue to talk to Scott 1350 01:00:55,730 --> 01:00:52,740 there is a long history 1351 01:00:59,030 --> 01:00:55,740 of covert involvement 1352 01:01:01,549 --> 01:00:59,040 at some of these strange facilities we 1353 01:01:06,309 --> 01:01:01,559 have Charles Hall describing 1354 01:01:11,030 --> 01:01:06,319 an ET race called The Tall whites 1355 01:01:13,069 --> 01:01:11,040 who had according to him a base in the 1356 01:01:14,569 --> 01:01:13,079 northern end of the Indian Springs 1357 01:01:17,569 --> 01:01:14,579 Valley 1358 01:01:21,410 --> 01:01:17,579 near a military base 1359 01:01:25,210 --> 01:01:21,420 we have of course the testimony of Bob 1360 01:01:29,150 --> 01:01:25,220 Lazar who claims to have been working on 1361 01:01:31,370 --> 01:01:29,160 reverse engineered alien technology 1362 01:01:33,950 --> 01:01:31,380 and there is 1363 01:01:36,890 --> 01:01:33,960 an array of tunnels 1364 01:01:37,930 --> 01:01:36,900 who a variety of people have come 1365 01:01:41,150 --> 01:01:37,940 together 1366 01:01:42,650 --> 01:01:41,160 explored and told incredible stories 1367 01:01:46,130 --> 01:01:42,660 about 1368 01:01:48,710 --> 01:01:46,140 and many of these are claimed to lead to 1369 01:01:50,150 --> 01:01:48,720 deep underground military bases and 1370 01:01:53,930 --> 01:01:50,160 structures 1371 01:01:56,390 --> 01:01:53,940 Skeptics have scoffed at any lights in 1372 01:01:59,210 --> 01:01:56,400 the sky whatsoever but I'll tell you 1373 01:02:02,569 --> 01:01:59,220 these lights captured by Scott 1374 01:02:04,549 --> 01:02:02,579 and a variety of other Vegas locals have 1375 01:02:06,890 --> 01:02:04,559 everyone 1376 01:02:09,049 --> 01:02:06,900 scratching their heads 1377 01:02:11,990 --> 01:02:09,059 mission accomplished 1378 01:02:13,630 --> 01:02:12,000 we caught something that cannot be 1379 01:02:16,490 --> 01:02:13,640 explained 1380 01:02:19,309 --> 01:02:16,500 kudos to Scott for doing it pulling out 1381 01:02:21,950 --> 01:02:19,319 his phone and taking the time 1382 01:02:23,030 --> 01:02:21,960 we may not know what was witnessed that 1383 01:02:27,170 --> 01:02:23,040 night 1384 01:02:30,589 --> 01:02:27,180 but we are getting a better idea of what 1385 01:02:33,049 --> 01:02:30,599 wasn't witnessed that night 1386 01:02:35,390 --> 01:02:33,059 until next time keep your eyes to the 1387 01:02:44,190 --> 01:02:35,400 skies feet on the ground but don't 1388 01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:54,109 [Music]